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     cloning: RRT Industries, Ltd.
 @RRTIndustries
 imagine if the dude from Captain
 Kangaroo starting thinking he was
 an actual ship captain and went
 around lecturing people on
 maritime navigation, law, logistics,
 etc
 that's exactly what @BillNye did
 but with science
 12:45 PM 06 Dec 17
<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169338857563/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169338213883/rabbittiddy-sosungalittleclodofclay" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169337983338/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169337454458/rabbittiddy-sosungalittleclodofclay" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169329358063/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169328548058/rabbittiddy-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169326565428/reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169169121166/keyhollow-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168997730/reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169168925781/keyhollow-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168907340/reasonandempathy-keyhollow-fluffylaces" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169168826941/keyhollow-fluffylaces" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168724475/fluffylaces-political-dissonance-pretty" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://fluffylaces.tumblr.com/post/169168398436/political-dissonance-pretty-much-wait-isnt" class="tumblr_blog">fluffylaces</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://political-dissonance.tumblr.com/post/168689151551/pretty-much" class="tumblr_blog">political-dissonance</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>Pretty Much</p></blockquote>

<p>Wait, isn’t Bill Nye an actual scientist?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Mechanical engineer if I remember correctly, so no</p>
</blockquote>
<p>STEM degree, so yes.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Except he’s not a scientist, he is an engineer. </p>
<p>Trust me, it’s different. </p>
<p>S - Science (scientists)</p>
<p>T - Technology (technicians, can also minorly overlap with others</p>
<p>E - Engineering (engineers)</p>
<p>M - Managment (those who manage others. Usually they’re managing the engineers, because boy do they need it. Often referred to as Managment) </p>
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<p style="">…the M stands for Mathematics…</p>
</blockquote>

<p>You are right. </p>
<p>It does. </p>
<p>I fucked up right there and I have a funny story as to why, but that’s not for right now. My point still stands. </p>
</blockquote>
<p style="">Okay.</p>
<figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="140" data-orig-width="618"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/622d61bb2e7ac576fec909f06c428dd2/tumblr_inline_p1utegrCoU1tb6pwe_540.png" data-orig-height="140" data-orig-width="618"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="472" data-orig-width="658"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/0e078dbb13b933860fa6fe5db9b83f05/tumblr_inline_p1utfa5aoA1tb6pwe_540.png" data-orig-height="472" data-orig-width="658"/></figure><p>The guy also has 6 honorary doctorates of science from Johns Hopkins, Rutgers, and other universities.</p>
<p style=""><br/></p>
<p style="">You can say that his professional work is engineering and not science, and be correct.</p>
<p>I’m making the assertion that he has the accolades and professional experience, especially enough overlap, that it’s a distinction without difference in his case.</p>
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<p>The honorary thing is iffy. People who worked for those degrees tend towards disliking an honorary overstepping, especially with how little you can do to get one.</p>
<p>It’s less Bill Nye is like the above and more like Bill Nye is just like Linus Pauling.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if he’s that good, but let me tell you something<br/><br/>when non science communicators start talking science, people get scared. we talk about wierd funguses and parasites and hyperparasitoid wasps and viruses and what not and the strange (and exicting!) shit they do and the next thing you know, you have 398 different books and video games and webcomics exploring zombies and aliens parasites/virus and fungal zombies and a whole nine yards. which at least the audiance of those only has a mini freak out when they find out that, say, cordyceps(<i>last of us</i>) is a real thing (but only a few insect species are susceptible).<br/><br/>so for big mainsteam infodumps, we give very safe and secure and generally well recieved science communicators a long lead.</p>
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<p>I meant more in Pauling’s thing on megadoses of Vitamin C. Great chemist, but knows fuck all about nutrition and medicine. And part of me gets the idea that people don’t get that Bill is a damn fine engineer, but his science credentials, are of the pop variety, which can be good to get kids into the sciences, but the way people treat him as an authority on anything aside from mechanical engineering leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth, especially given that I know exactly how he got his start, and I’ve seen more accomplished people do a better job.</p>
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<p>and then people ask how we get there and we say, well we’d have to start with stem cell research and then we’d have cloning tech and organ donoation wouldn’t even be a thing and then (and then people get VERYVERY SCARED) next thing you know there’s a human born human front and everyone is rewatching gattaca and blade runner and getting VERY SCARED again. I mean damn, if people find out what we’re doing with parathanogenisis research in the mean while, y’all would flip a lid. <br/><br/>also, “vitamin megadose therapy”: actually very effective for some nutritional defecencies and related diseases(scurvy is an old one: large doses of vitamin C which yes is water soluble and is thus pissed out, treats scurvy faster than the exact capacity dose, rickets and some others), but yes negligble effect on healthy people. and it promoted people looking at world hunger as a problem to be solved to look at total nutrition(something not thought of in the 1960′s), not just kcal quantity. and for healthy people, megadosing does nothing that a placebo doesn’t do unless it’s once of the few fat soluble ones, and thus is altogether harmless as a ritual.<br/><br/>and of course, it serves as an mental innoculation against leaving things like bright’s disease(s) declared ‘untreatable’.<br/><br/>sometimes you have to come at a problem or set of problems squirrelly and sideways.</p>
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<p>I’m referring to megadoses being a panacea, which Linus kinda started (and has been shown by other to be not the case) of somebody with a particular degree going out of their element and making a fool of themselves.</p>
<p>What I’m going on here is that Nye wass great for getting kids into the sciences, but he’s not an authority. He’s an entertainer first and foremost. He’s not an authority on most of the stuff he purports either, and even then has problems in still being the guy from Almost Live who had science demonstrations that three Brits who actually work for Universities and have relevant degrees as well do an even better job of teaching while entertaining (helps that the three have some education credentials to back it up). Like I said his knowledge is of the pop and elementary variety, and very often (especially nowadays) strays into guy who doesn’t even try to research what he’s talking about in the slightest.</p>
<p>As for squirelly thinking, that’s great when it produces repeatable and verifiable results, but often it tends toward pseudioscience, which gets debunked time and again. And when I say pop science, I’m talking things that have come around that stick because they’re popular, even if they’re actually wrong (for example elemental Iodine doesn’t boil ever, it just sublimates, which is something various home chemists have accidentally discovered isn’t true).That’s some of what’s going on with Nye, people are now taking him as an authority when he has none, and may in fact be wrong.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Okay, lay it out. what is it that you’re scared that Nye maybe wrong about?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>LEts see fors starters on the more recent one his whole gender show. On the older one, it’s had some stuff that’s gone the way of the dodo (how he described atoms, even by 6th grade I knew it was long out of date), the whole myth of freezer batteries, his newer thing on nuclear power, hell have a video by somebody else.</p><figure class="tmblr-embed tmblr-full" data-provider="youtube" data-orig-width="540" data-orig-height="304" data-url="https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjwZs226GTWI"><iframe width="540" height="304" id="youtube_iframe" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jwZs226GTWI?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https://safe.txmblr.com&amp;wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></figure></blockquote>

<p>Also can we please stop pretending that honorary degrees mean jack shit?</p>
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                 cloning: RRT Industries, Ltd.
 @RRTIndustries
 imagine if the dude from Captain
 Kangaroo starting thinking he was
 an actual ship captain and went
 around lecturing people on
 maritime navigation, law, logistics,
 etc
 that's exactly what @BillNye did
 but with science
 12:45 PM 06 Dec 17
<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169338857563/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169338213883/rabbittiddy-sosungalittleclodofclay" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169337983338/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169337454458/rabbittiddy-sosungalittleclodofclay" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169329358063/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://sosungalittleclodofclay.tumblr.com/post/169328548058/rabbittiddy-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">sosungalittleclodofclay</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169326565428/reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169169121166/keyhollow-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168997730/reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169168925781/keyhollow-reasonandempathy-keyhollow" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168907340/reasonandempathy-keyhollow-fluffylaces" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://reasonandempathy.tumblr.com/post/169168826941/keyhollow-fluffylaces" class="tumblr_blog">reasonandempathy</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://keyhollow.tumblr.com/post/169168724475/fluffylaces-political-dissonance-pretty" class="tumblr_blog">keyhollow</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://fluffylaces.tumblr.com/post/169168398436/political-dissonance-pretty-much-wait-isnt" class="tumblr_blog">fluffylaces</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://political-dissonance.tumblr.com/post/168689151551/pretty-much" class="tumblr_blog">political-dissonance</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>Pretty Much</p></blockquote>

<p>Wait, isn’t Bill Nye an actual scientist?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Mechanical engineer if I remember correctly, so no</p>
</blockquote>
<p>STEM degree, so yes.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Except he’s not a scientist, he is an engineer. </p>
<p>Trust me, it’s different. </p>
<p>S - Science (scientists)</p>
<p>T - Technology (technicians, can also minorly overlap with others</p>
<p>E - Engineering (engineers)</p>
<p>M - Managment (those who manage others. Usually they’re managing the engineers, because boy do they need it. Often referred to as Managment) </p>
</blockquote>
<p style="">…the M stands for Mathematics…</p>
</blockquote>

<p>You are right. </p>
<p>It does. </p>
<p>I fucked up right there and I have a funny story as to why, but that’s not for right now. My point still stands. </p>
</blockquote>
<p style="">Okay.</p>
<figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="140" data-orig-width="618"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/622d61bb2e7ac576fec909f06c428dd2/tumblr_inline_p1utegrCoU1tb6pwe_540.png" data-orig-height="140" data-orig-width="618"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="472" data-orig-width="658"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/0e078dbb13b933860fa6fe5db9b83f05/tumblr_inline_p1utfa5aoA1tb6pwe_540.png" data-orig-height="472" data-orig-width="658"/></figure><p>The guy also has 6 honorary doctorates of science from Johns Hopkins, Rutgers, and other universities.</p>
<p style=""><br/></p>
<p style="">You can say that his professional work is engineering and not science, and be correct.</p>
<p>I’m making the assertion that he has the accolades and professional experience, especially enough overlap, that it’s a distinction without difference in his case.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The honorary thing is iffy. People who worked for those degrees tend towards disliking an honorary overstepping, especially with how little you can do to get one.</p>
<p>It’s less Bill Nye is like the above and more like Bill Nye is just like Linus Pauling.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I don’t know if he’s that good, but let me tell you something<br/><br/>when non science communicators start talking science, people get scared. we talk about wierd funguses and parasites and hyperparasitoid wasps and viruses and what not and the strange (and exicting!) shit they do and the next thing you know, you have 398 different books and video games and webcomics exploring zombies and aliens parasites/virus and fungal zombies and a whole nine yards. which at least the audiance of those only has a mini freak out when they find out that, say, cordyceps(<i>last of us</i>) is a real thing (but only a few insect species are susceptible).<br/><br/>so for big mainsteam infodumps, we give very safe and secure and generally well recieved science communicators a long lead.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I meant more in Pauling’s thing on megadoses of Vitamin C. Great chemist, but knows fuck all about nutrition and medicine. And part of me gets the idea that people don’t get that Bill is a damn fine engineer, but his science credentials, are of the pop variety, which can be good to get kids into the sciences, but the way people treat him as an authority on anything aside from mechanical engineering leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth, especially given that I know exactly how he got his start, and I’ve seen more accomplished people do a better job.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>and then people ask how we get there and we say, well we’d have to start with stem cell research and then we’d have cloning tech and organ donoation wouldn’t even be a thing and then (and then people get VERYVERY SCARED) next thing you know there’s a human born human front and everyone is rewatching gattaca and blade runner and getting VERY SCARED again. I mean damn, if people find out what we’re doing with parathanogenisis research in the mean while, y’all would flip a lid. <br/><br/>also, “vitamin megadose therapy”: actually very effective for some nutritional defecencies and related diseases(scurvy is an old one: large doses of vitamin C which yes is water soluble and is thus pissed out, treats scurvy faster than the exact capacity dose, rickets and some others), but yes negligble effect on healthy people. and it promoted people looking at world hunger as a problem to be solved to look at total nutrition(something not thought of in the 1960′s), not just kcal quantity. and for healthy people, megadosing does nothing that a placebo doesn’t do unless it’s once of the few fat soluble ones, and thus is altogether harmless as a ritual.<br/><br/>and of course, it serves as an mental innoculation against leaving things like bright’s disease(s) declared ‘untreatable’.<br/><br/>sometimes you have to come at a problem or set of problems squirrelly and sideways.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I’m referring to megadoses being a panacea, which Linus kinda started (and has been shown by other to be not the case) of somebody with a particular degree going out of their element and making a fool of themselves.</p>
<p>What I’m going on here is that Nye wass great for getting kids into the sciences, but he’s not an authority. He’s an entertainer first and foremost. He’s not an authority on most of the stuff he purports either, and even then has problems in still being the guy from Almost Live who had science demonstrations that three Brits who actually work for Universities and have relevant degrees as well do an even better job of teaching while entertaining (helps that the three have some education credentials to back it up). Like I said his knowledge is of the pop and elementary variety, and very often (especially nowadays) strays into guy who doesn’t even try to research what he’s talking about in the slightest.</p>
<p>As for squirelly thinking, that’s great when it produces repeatable and verifiable results, but often it tends toward pseudioscience, which gets debunked time and again. And when I say pop science, I’m talking things that have come around that stick because they’re popular, even if they’re actually wrong (for example elemental Iodine doesn’t boil ever, it just sublimates, which is something various home chemists have accidentally discovered isn’t true).That’s some of what’s going on with Nye, people are now taking him as an authority when he has none, and may in fact be wrong.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Okay, lay it out. what is it that you’re scared that Nye maybe wrong about?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>LEts see fors starters on the more recent one his whole gender show. On the older one, it’s had some stuff that’s gone the way of the dodo (how he described atoms, even by 6th grade I knew it was long out of date), the whole myth of freezer batteries, his newer thing on nuclear power, hell have a video by somebody else.</p><figure class="tmblr-embed tmblr-full" data-provider="youtube" data-orig-width="540" data-orig-height="304" data-url="https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjwZs226GTWI"><iframe width="540" height="304" id="youtube_iframe" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jwZs226GTWI?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https://safe.txmblr.com&amp;wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></figure></blockquote>

<p>Also can we please stop pretending that honorary degrees mean jack shit?</p>
                
            

            
            
<p><a href="http://rabbittiddy.tumblr.com/post/169338857563/sosungalittleclodofclay-rabbittiddy" class="tumblr_blog">rabbittiddy</a>:</p>...