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Bad, Children, and Chill: * Watch Dra Cuddy:Mother Gothel by Aveku-chan-Kataang Customization /Wallpaper/ People / Females @2011-2016 Aveku-chan-Kataang YES! C'MON! 8DDD galotheshroom: ava-burton-writing: dragonenby: writingwithcolor: so-many-miles-to-go: aworldinneedofmagic: the-independent-jew: so-many-miles-to-go: smol-mother-rose: so-many-miles-to-go: Yeah, there’s a reason for that. It’s called: antisemitic caricature. I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil. Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.   This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”: Here’s a more close up look at her features. The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.” If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc). But here is what we have is - small noses that turn up at the end: wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well) And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button): Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes” Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women. There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.   Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that. Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well. Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again. Hope this helps. EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead. Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes. Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains. You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.   But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this. So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization. Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda: Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using.  One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.   They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain. It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting. You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv. And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign. Reblogging again for these additions. I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media. Stay cognizant! This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️ I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by. Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.
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Yeah, there’s a reason for that.
It’s called: antisemitic caricature.


I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? 
I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:
Here’s a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.

Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. 

omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement

So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.
You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 
One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.

Reblogging again for these additions.


I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.
Stay cognizant!  

This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️

I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by.


Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.

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Dad, Family, and Fire: Meghan McCain @MeghanMcCain I love you forever - my beloved father @SenJohnMcCain My father, United States Senator John Sidney McCain III, departed this life today. I was with my father at his end, as he was with me at my beginning. In the thirty-three years we shared together, he raised me, taught me, corrected me, comforted me, encouraged me, and supported me in all things. He loved me, and I loved him. He taught me how to live. His love and his care, ever present, always unfailing, took me from a girl to a woman- and he showed me what it is to be a man All that I am is thanks to him. Now that he is gone, the task of my lifetime is to live up to his example, his expectations, and his love. My father's passing comes with sorrow and grief for me, for my mother, for my brothers, and for my sisters. He was a great fire who burned bright, and we lived in his light and warmth for so very long. We know that his flame lives on, in each of us. The days and years to come will not be the same without my dad-but they will be good days, filled with life and love, because of the example he lived for us. Your prayers, for his soul and for our family, are sincerely appreciated. My father is gone, and I miss him as only an adoring daughter can. But in this loss, and in this sorrow,I take comfort in this: John McCain, hero of the republic and to his little girl, wakes today to something more glorious than anything on this earth. Today the warrior enters his true and eternal life, greeted by those who have gone before him, rising to meet the Author of All Things: "The dream is ended: this is the morning. Earlier, Meghan McCain tweeted about the passing of her father, Sen. John McCain.
Dad, Family, and Fire: Meghan McCain
 @MeghanMcCain
 I love you forever - my beloved father
 @SenJohnMcCain
 My father, United States Senator John Sidney McCain III, departed this life today.
 I was with my father at his end, as he was with me at my beginning. In the thirty-three years we
 shared together, he raised me, taught me, corrected me, comforted me, encouraged me, and
 supported me in all things. He loved me, and I loved him. He taught me how to live. His love and
 his care, ever present, always unfailing, took me from a girl to a woman- and he showed me
 what it is to be a man
 All that I am is thanks to him. Now that he is gone, the task of my lifetime is to live up to his
 example, his expectations, and his love.
 My father's passing comes with sorrow and grief for me, for my mother, for my brothers, and for
 my sisters. He was a great fire who burned bright, and we lived in his light and warmth for so
 very long. We know that his flame lives on, in each of us. The days and years to come will not
 be the same without my dad-but they will be good days, filled with life and love, because of
 the example he lived for us.
 Your prayers, for his soul and for our family, are sincerely appreciated.
 My father is gone, and I miss him as only an adoring daughter can. But in this loss, and in this
 sorrow,I take comfort in this: John McCain, hero of the republic and to his little girl, wakes today
 to something more glorious than anything on this earth. Today the warrior enters his true and
 eternal life, greeted by those who have gone before him, rising to meet the Author of All Things:
 "The dream is ended: this is the morning.
Earlier, Meghan McCain tweeted about the passing of her father, Sen. John McCain.

Earlier, Meghan McCain tweeted about the passing of her father, Sen. John McCain.

Blackpeopletwitter, Disney, and Future: r/movies u/Sockin x2 6h The Cast of Guardians of the Galaxy release statement on James Gunn Being in the Guardians of the Galaxy" movies has been a great honor in each of our lives. We cannot let this moment pass without expressing our love, support, and gratitude for James. We are not here to defend his jokes of many years ago but rather to share our experience having spent many years together on set making Guardians of the Galaxy I and 2. The character he has shown in the wake of his firing is consistent with the man he was every day on set, and his apology, now and from years ago when first addressing these remarks, we believe is from the heart, a heart we all know, trust, and love. In casting each of us to help him tell the story of misfits who find redemption, he changed our lives forever, We believe the theme of redemption has never been more relevant than now Each of us looks forward to working with our friend James again in the future. His story isn't over- not by a long shot. ue process in the court of public opinion. James is likely not the last good person to be put on trial. Given the growing political devide in this country, it's safe to say instances like this will continue, although we hope Americans from across the political spectrum can ease up on the character assassinations and stop weaponizing mob mentality It is our hope that what has transpired can serve as an example for all of us to realize the enormous responsibility we have to gurselves and to each other regarding the use of our written words when we etch them in digital stone; that we as a society nnay what help our warnds pbs.twimg.com e we decide capability to time to read 56.1k 7.5k , Share r/BlackPeopleTwitter u/KingPZe 8h You live and vou learn @bra_josef Just because you did something wrong in the past doesn't mean you can't advocate against it now. It doesn't make you a hypocrite, you grew. Don't let people use your past to invalidate your current mindset.... Growth A concept. Embrace it 25/07/2018, 14:08 awesomacious: hint hint Disney
Blackpeopletwitter, Disney, and Future: r/movies
 u/Sockin x2 6h
 The Cast of Guardians of the
 Galaxy release statement on
 James Gunn
 Being in the Guardians of the Galaxy" movies has been a great honor in each of our
 lives. We cannot let this moment pass without expressing our love, support, and
 gratitude for James. We are not here to defend his jokes of many years ago but rather
 to share our experience having spent many years together on set making Guardians
 of the Galaxy I and 2. The character he has shown in the wake of his firing is
 consistent with the man he was every day on set, and his apology, now and from
 years ago when first addressing these remarks, we believe is from the heart, a heart
 we all know, trust, and love. In casting each of us to help him tell the story of misfits
 who find redemption, he changed our lives forever, We believe the theme of
 redemption has never been more relevant than now
 Each of us looks forward to working with our friend James again in the future. His
 story isn't over- not by a long shot.
 ue process in the court of public opinion.
 James is likely not the last
 good person to be put on trial. Given the growing political devide in this country, it's
 safe to say instances like this will continue, although we hope Americans from across
 the political spectrum can ease up on the character assassinations and stop
 weaponizing mob mentality
 It is our hope that what has transpired can serve as an example for all of us to realize
 the enormous responsibility we have to gurselves and to each other regarding the
 use of our written words when we etch them in digital stone; that we as a society
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 You live and vou learn
 @bra_josef
 Just because you did something wrong
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 advocate against it now. It doesn't make
 you a hypocrite, you grew. Don't let
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 current mindset.... Growth
 A concept. Embrace it
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awesomacious:

hint hint Disney

awesomacious: hint hint Disney

College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!” It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I read it.  An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.   Except he doesn’t. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say “it would be OK if liberals did it“. He didn’t say would be “OK” with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y’all need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don’t get to just throw up your hands and say “that sounds stupid so it’s not real”. It’s insanely stupid, and it disturbs me that anyone would even consider this idea.  Crazy Uncle Joe would be an absolutely horrible President, even more of a puppet than Obama.   Friend, buddy, pal, chum. I am not even sort of saying that this would be a good idea and I don’t even think it’s on the table. Biden has shown no interest in running, much less appointing Obama as VP. He would be an idiot to do that because it almost certainly wouldn’t make it through the electoral college. This is just a thought exercise, nothing more.
College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
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coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:


libertarirynn:

coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!”

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I read it.  An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.  


Except he doesn’t. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say “it would be OK if liberals did it“. He didn’t say would be “OK” with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. 
Y’all need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don’t get to just throw up your hands and say “that sounds stupid so it’s not real”.

It’s insanely stupid, and it disturbs me that anyone would even consider this idea.  Crazy Uncle Joe would be an absolutely horrible President, even more of a puppet than Obama.  

Friend, buddy, pal, chum. I am not even sort of saying that this would be a good idea and I don’t even think it’s on the table. Biden has shown no interest in running, much less appointing Obama as VP. He would be an idiot to do that because it almost certainly wouldn’t make it through the electoral college. This is just a thought exercise, nothing more.

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College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!” It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I read it.  An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.   Except he doesn’t. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say “it would be OK if liberals did it“. He didn’t say would be “OK” with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y’all need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don’t get to just throw up your hands and say “that sounds stupid so it’s not real”.
College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!”

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I read it.  An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.  

Except he doesn’t. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say “it would be OK if liberals did it“. He didn’t say would be “OK” with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y’all need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don’t get to just throw up your hands and say “that sounds stupid so it’s not real”.

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Be Like, Doctor, and Fucking: @Dr_Sweets23 House was a weird show. Patients would be rushed the hospital with unexplained fevers and heart problems. And House would come in like "did you check his asshole for toothpicks?" And they'd be like "damn u right." 8/4/18, 1:43 PM 13.6K Retweets 39.9K Likes hst3000: libertarirynn: skepticphantom: libertarirynn: melonmemes: Nothin gets past House✋🏽🚫 I love that there are people sharing this who might not realize there is literally an episode where a fucking toothpick was the culprit. On the flip side of that example I remember an episode where House was convinced a womans condition was being caused by a tick, but repeated searches of her body found none, until towards the end of the episode where he was like “theres one place we havnt looked..” and he pulled out a tick hanging around her snatch. Didn’t he basically steal that patient and snatch the bug out of her cootch when they were trapped in an elevator together? The only reason he didn’t get charged with sexual assault, have his medical license set ablaze, and get locked in jail for the rest of his life was because it happened to be the right guess and House rarely faces any sort of serious consequences for utterly outrageous behavior 😂 There’s actually an entire episodes that revolves around the consequences of letting him do that sort of stuff because he’s usually right. Cuddy almost lets a suicidally depressed man who’s basically locked into his body go without treatment to drive that in to House. That’s why I said “rarely“. There are some episodes that go for high drama, like the one you mentioned or the one where Wilson’s girlfriend dies. But in most day-to-day episodes he does things no doctor would ever do without being litigated to hell and back. All while Cuddy reprimands him with her tits hanging out, which as we all know is how hospital directors typically dress. Not that I’m complaining, I realize it’s a fictional show that relies on drama and suspension of disbelief to be interesting.
Be Like, Doctor, and Fucking: @Dr_Sweets23
 House was a weird show. Patients
 would be rushed the hospital with
 unexplained fevers and heart
 problems. And House would come in
 like "did you check his asshole for
 toothpicks?" And they'd be like
 "damn u right."
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hst3000:
libertarirynn:

skepticphantom:

libertarirynn:

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Nothin gets past House✋🏽🚫

I love that there are people sharing this who might not realize there is literally an episode where a fucking toothpick was the culprit. 

On the flip side of that example I remember an episode where House was convinced a womans condition was being caused by a tick, but repeated searches of her body found none, until towards the end of the episode where he was like “theres one place we havnt looked..” and he pulled out a tick hanging around her snatch.

Didn’t he basically steal that patient and snatch the bug out of her cootch when they were trapped in an elevator together? The only reason he didn’t get charged with sexual assault, have his medical license set ablaze, and get locked in jail for the rest of his life was because it happened to be the right guess and House rarely faces any sort of serious consequences for utterly outrageous behavior 😂

There’s actually an entire episodes that revolves around the consequences of letting him do that sort of stuff because he’s usually right. Cuddy almost lets a suicidally depressed man who’s basically locked into his body go without treatment to drive that in to House.
That’s why I said “rarely“. There are some episodes that go for high drama, like the one you mentioned or the one where Wilson’s girlfriend dies. But in most day-to-day episodes he does things no doctor would ever do without being litigated to hell and back. All while Cuddy reprimands him with her tits hanging out, which as we all know is how hospital directors typically dress. Not that I’m complaining, I realize it’s a fictional show that relies on drama and suspension of disbelief to be interesting.

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Dumb, Food, and Fucking: Follow IHoe IHOP @IHOP flat but has a GREAT personality RETWEETS F AVORITES 385 381S 6:00 PM-18 Oct 2015 feels-by-the-foot: edgelowl102: This advertisement from IHOP’s certified Twitter account was taken down within hours of posting, and the company released an apology within two hours that read: “Earlier today we tweeted something dumb and immature that does not reflect what IHOP stands for. We’re sorry.” Referring to pancakes as flat is a perfectly normal claim. Applying personification to food is also commonplace in the social media marketing industry, as it lends a humorous personality to an otherwise boring corporate marketing campaign. The copywriter behind the post likely had innocent intentions and came up with this post using the same process he or she used for hundreds of other posts before it. However, this is a perfect example of a tasteless social media faux pas that created a severe backlash that did more harm than good to the brand’s public image.   The post itself personifies tastelessness more than anything else. By pairing a highly suggestive image with incredibly offensive copy, IHOP effectively told the world that they find misogyny humourous. The brand received the negative backlash of the highly sensitive collective voice of the Internet within minutes and business likely suffered accordingly. As far as I’m concerned, they deserved every inch of animosity they had thrown at them because of this blatant display of idiocy. And as a social media marketer myself, I’m offended that someone allowed this to be posted on an account as large as IHOP’s.   Why are feminists so weak? If you don’t like the joke, great, but some of us got a smile out of it. I’m eating at IHOP later because of this, for sure. They shouldn’t have to apologize.  “The brand received the negative backlash of the highly sensitive collective voice of the Internet within minutes”Boy howdy have you got that right. Get a fucking grip you offense-addicted diaper babies.
Dumb, Food, and Fucking: Follow
 IHoe IHOP
 @IHOP
 flat but has a GREAT personality
 RETWEETS F
 AVORITES
 385 381S
 6:00 PM-18 Oct 2015
feels-by-the-foot:

edgelowl102:

This advertisement from IHOP’s certified Twitter account was taken down within hours of posting, and the company released an apology within two hours that read:
“Earlier today we tweeted something dumb and immature that does not reflect what IHOP stands for. We’re sorry.”
Referring to pancakes as flat is a perfectly normal claim. Applying personification to food is also commonplace in the social media marketing industry, as it lends a humorous personality to an otherwise boring corporate marketing campaign. The copywriter behind the post likely had innocent intentions and came up with this post using the same process he or she used for hundreds of other posts before it. However, this is a perfect example of a tasteless social media faux pas that created a severe backlash that did more harm than good to the brand’s public image.  
The post itself personifies tastelessness more than anything else. By pairing a highly suggestive image with incredibly offensive copy, IHOP effectively told the world that they find misogyny humourous. The brand received the negative backlash of the highly sensitive collective voice of the Internet within minutes and business likely suffered accordingly. As far as I’m concerned, they deserved every inch of animosity they had thrown at them because of this blatant display of idiocy. And as a social media marketer myself, I’m offended that someone allowed this to be posted on an account as large as IHOP’s.  


Why are feminists so weak? If you don’t like the joke, great, but some of us got a smile out of it. I’m eating at IHOP later because of this, for sure. They shouldn’t have to apologize. 

“The brand received the negative backlash of the highly sensitive collective voice of the Internet within minutes”Boy howdy have you got that right. Get a fucking grip you offense-addicted diaper babies.

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Andrew Bogut, Children, and Donald Trump: UNCLE SAM'S MISGUIDED CHILDREN FIRST THEY CAME, FOR HE 5TH AMENDMENT, I DID NOT SPEAK OUT A§EHAD, NOT-BEEN ARRESTED THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 4TH AMENDMENT DID NOT SPEAK OUT AS HAD NOT BEEN SEARCHED THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 2ND AMENDMENT IDID NOT SPEAK OUT AS IDID NOT OWN ANY GUNS THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 1ST AMENDMENT... AND THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT FROM THE CONSTITUTION TO PROTECT ME WWW.MISGUIDEDCHILDREN COM I created this powerful meme in 2011 when our first page was taken down. I understand censorship and the war to defend our freedom of speech more so than anyone. As a communism survivor I have lived through 13 years of oppression and remember the wisdom of my late father who said “A man who can’t express his views weather he’s wrong or right is a slave” , @unclesamsmisguidedchildren was the largest right wing social media page in Facebook at the time with 614,000 followers. We were bigger than @wearebreitbart , and many others including infowars but we supported them and @foxnews message, share their articles etc. When our large social media page was taken down, no one gave a single damn. Why? Because they saw us a competition or as a thorn. I know we aren’t a news site by any stretch of our imagination but we feature the most important topics affecting our country at the time, we made memes such as this one and many others that went viral. We were the original deplorables of our time. Now, the gods of the universe are attacking Alex Jones because Alex Jones while I don’t agree with everything he says and I am not one of his followers, him and Infowars along with @unclesamsmisguidedchildren and many other pages were 110% supporters of Donald Trump. Alex Jones and his team were behind making sure we deplorables as the left call us had support in social media by sharing the information that needed to be shared. They are afraid of Alex Jones, they are afraid of all those who are saying things that go against their socialistic propaganda and we must all unite or one day we will all be answering our doors to some gestapo arresting us for saying what others don’t have the balls to say. Example of what’s to come is what’s happening in the UK & what’s happening to Tommy Robinson. Tell me who you aren’t allowed to criticize and I tell you who controls you. Just so you know, the first time we were taken down was due to the mere fact that we posted the connection between Hitler and the Moslem brotherhood. They were afraid we educate the masses that Hitler thought of Islam as the perfect idiology to rule the masses.
Andrew Bogut, Children, and Donald Trump: UNCLE
 SAM'S
 MISGUIDED
 CHILDREN
 FIRST THEY CAME, FOR HE 5TH AMENDMENT,
 I DID NOT SPEAK OUT A§EHAD, NOT-BEEN ARRESTED
 THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 4TH AMENDMENT
 DID NOT SPEAK OUT AS HAD NOT BEEN SEARCHED
 THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 2ND AMENDMENT
 IDID NOT SPEAK OUT AS IDID NOT OWN ANY GUNS
 THEN THEY CAME FOR THE 1ST AMENDMENT...
 AND THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT FROM THE
 CONSTITUTION TO PROTECT ME
 WWW.MISGUIDEDCHILDREN COM
I created this powerful meme in 2011 when our first page was taken down. I understand censorship and the war to defend our freedom of speech more so than anyone. As a communism survivor I have lived through 13 years of oppression and remember the wisdom of my late father who said “A man who can’t express his views weather he’s wrong or right is a slave” , @unclesamsmisguidedchildren was the largest right wing social media page in Facebook at the time with 614,000 followers. We were bigger than @wearebreitbart , and many others including infowars but we supported them and @foxnews message, share their articles etc. When our large social media page was taken down, no one gave a single damn. Why? Because they saw us a competition or as a thorn. I know we aren’t a news site by any stretch of our imagination but we feature the most important topics affecting our country at the time, we made memes such as this one and many others that went viral. We were the original deplorables of our time. Now, the gods of the universe are attacking Alex Jones because Alex Jones while I don’t agree with everything he says and I am not one of his followers, him and Infowars along with @unclesamsmisguidedchildren and many other pages were 110% supporters of Donald Trump. Alex Jones and his team were behind making sure we deplorables as the left call us had support in social media by sharing the information that needed to be shared. They are afraid of Alex Jones, they are afraid of all those who are saying things that go against their socialistic propaganda and we must all unite or one day we will all be answering our doors to some gestapo arresting us for saying what others don’t have the balls to say. Example of what’s to come is what’s happening in the UK & what’s happening to Tommy Robinson. Tell me who you aren’t allowed to criticize and I tell you who controls you. Just so you know, the first time we were taken down was due to the mere fact that we posted the connection between Hitler and the Moslem brotherhood. They were afraid we educate the masses that Hitler thought of Islam as the perfect idiology to rule the masses.

I created this powerful meme in 2011 when our first page was taken down. I understand censorship and the war to defend our freedom of speech...

Adam Driver, Anaconda, and Apparently: Sean T. Collins Follow @theseantcollins weird that the person they went after from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones. weird that the person they went after from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran. what on earth could explain this 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes rockyrz: libertarirynn: siryouarebeingmocked: grumpy-goompa: siryouarebeingmocked: skeleton-jack: cookingwithroxy: siryouarebeingmocked: derpomatic: siryouarebeingmocked: theunnamedstranger: siryouarebeingmocked: theindependentconservative: siryouarebeingmocked: friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt: triggeredmedia: Bad acting and bad characters? other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too. melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern. the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises keep reporting on it months after it was news.  in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans. hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this? in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads. look, we should always separate the actor from their role people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism sexism into everything then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism. Not to mention Adam Driver. He’s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isn’t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed. These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end. Not to mention Rey’s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it. You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right? Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didn’t happen, like “being a better pilot than Han”. On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone who’s had it forever.That’s bullshit. On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life You mean the ship that she explicitly called “junk”? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback? How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I haven’t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but it’s treated as gospel.  Heck, he didn’t even “have it forever”, he lost it years, maybe decades ago. Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt. Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finn’s turret shot. Also, she’s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that she’s flying better than she expects. ‘somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!’ No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Rey’s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything. That there’s an explanation for what she’s doing and how she’s doing it doesn’t change that I and many people think she shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but it’s still the movie’s fault that they’re wrong, even when they’re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Rey’s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation is “fandom misconceptions”? just because she succeeded (lived) doesn’t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ‘easy’. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove people’s mary sue label? Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didn’t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We don’t even know if he would’ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of. But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire. I’m so glad I’m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesn’t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored “because the Force“ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because “she fight too good“ is kind of asinine. And don’t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it. But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit. Rey is 100% a Mary Sue. No training yet managed to beat Kylo Ren, flew a ship across space despite no experience, etc. @rockyrz did you read literally one word from the post above you or are you just gonna keep shouting “she’s a Mary Sue!“ and ignore all evidence to the contrary?“Managed to beat Kylo Ren”BECAUSE HE WAS FUCKING MORTALLY WOUNDED.“flew a ship across space”BECAUSE SHE HAD JUST STATED SHE WAS A PILOT.Like seriously it’s fine if you don’t like the movie but you seem kind of dumb if you just straight up ignore the evidence even it’s right in front of your face so you can keep saying the same thing over and over.
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Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
 in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. He’s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isn’t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Rey’s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didn’t happen, like “being a better pilot than Han”.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone who’s had it forever.That’s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly called “junk”? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I haven’t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but it’s treated as gospel. 
Heck, he didn’t even “have it forever”, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finn’s turret shot.
Also, she’s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that she’s flying better than she expects.

‘somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!’


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Rey’s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That there’s an explanation for what she’s doing and how she’s doing it doesn’t change that I and many people think she shouldn’t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but it’s still the movie’s fault that they’re wrong, even when they’re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Rey’s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation is “fandom misconceptions”?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesn’t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ‘easy’. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove people’s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didn’t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We don’t even know if he would’ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.

I’m so glad I’m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesn’t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored “because the Force“ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because “she fight too good“ is kind of asinine. And don’t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.
But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.


Rey is 100% a Mary Sue. No training yet managed to beat Kylo Ren, flew a ship across space despite no experience, etc.
@rockyrz did you read literally one word from the post above you or are you just gonna keep shouting “she’s a Mary Sue!“ and ignore all evidence to the contrary?“Managed to beat Kylo Ren”BECAUSE HE WAS FUCKING MORTALLY WOUNDED.“flew a ship across space”BECAUSE SHE HAD JUST STATED SHE WAS A PILOT.Like seriously it’s fine if you don’t like the movie but you seem kind of dumb if you just straight up ignore the evidence even it’s right in front of your face so you can keep saying the same thing over and over.

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Adam Driver, Apparently, and Bad: Sean T. Collins Follow @theseantcollins weird that the person they went after from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones. weird that the person they went after from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran. what on earth could explain this 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes siryouarebeingmocked: grumpy-goompa: siryouarebeingmocked: skeleton-jack: cookingwithroxy: siryouarebeingmocked: derpomatic: siryouarebeingmocked: theunnamedstranger: siryouarebeingmocked: theindependentconservative: siryouarebeingmocked: friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt: triggeredmedia: Bad acting and bad characters? other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too. melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern. the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises keep reporting on it months after it was news.  in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans. hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this? in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads. look, we should always separate the actor from their role people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism sexism into everything then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism. Not to mention Adam Driver. He’s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isn’t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed. These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end. Not to mention Rey’s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it. You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right? Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didn’t happen, like “being a better pilot than Han”. On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone who’s had it forever.That’s bullshit. On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life You mean the ship that she explicitly called “junk”? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback? How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I haven’t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but it’s treated as gospel.  Heck, he didn’t even “have it forever”, he lost it years, maybe decades ago. Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt. Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finn’s turret shot. Also, she’s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that she’s flying better than she expects. ‘somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!’ No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Rey’s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything. That there’s an explanation for what she’s doing and how she’s doing it doesn’t change that I and many people think she shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but it’s still the movie’s fault that they’re wrong, even when they’re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Rey’s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation is “fandom misconceptions”? just because she succeeded (lived) doesn’t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ‘easy’. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove people’s mary sue label? Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didn’t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We don’t even know if he would’ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of. But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire. I’m so glad I’m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesn’t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored “because the Force“ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because “she fight too good“ is kind of asinine. And don’t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.
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Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
 in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. He’s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isn’t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Rey’s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didn’t happen, like “being a better pilot than Han”.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone who’s had it forever.That’s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly called “junk”? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I haven’t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but it’s treated as gospel. 
Heck, he didn’t even “have it forever”, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finn’s turret shot.
Also, she’s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that she’s flying better than she expects.

‘somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!’


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Rey’s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That there’s an explanation for what she’s doing and how she’s doing it doesn’t change that I and many people think she shouldn’t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but it’s still the movie’s fault that they’re wrong, even when they’re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Rey’s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation is “fandom misconceptions”?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesn’t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ‘easy’. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove people’s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didn’t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We don’t even know if he would’ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.
I’m so glad I’m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesn’t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored “because the Force“ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because “she fight too good“ is kind of asinine. And don’t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.

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 A FUN, INTERACTIVE EXHIBITION
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 BY WOMEN IN THE GAMES INDUSTRY
 e days of gaming being a boys-only zone are
 well and truly over. Nearly half of all gamers are
 women and, according to the Australian Bureau of
 Statistics, the number of women working in the
 industry rose from 8.7% in 2011-12 to 15% in
 2015-16. But there is still a long way to go, and
 incidents like Gamergate-where female gamers
 and developers in the US were harassed and
 threatened for speaking out against sexism-give
 the industry a bad reputation.
 An exhibition at the Australian Centre for the
 Moving Image (ACMI) called Code Breakers: Women
 in Games aims to change that. Ten female
 programmers, producers, designers and directors
 from Australia and New Zealand are featured, and
 visitors can play their games, which range from big
 studio releases like Little Big Planet and Tricky
 Towers through to more experimental titles.
 As programmer Elissa Harris says in the
 exhibition, "One of the most important things for
 a child growing up is seeing people who look like
 them doing the things they want to be doing.
 More diversity behind the scenes also leads to more
 diversity in the games themselves. Protagonists in
 games used to be mainly men-now there is more
 variety, in culture and race, as well as gender. For
 example, Maru Nihoniho's Metio Interactive produces
 games with Mäori characters, and players can choose
 to play in English or Te Reo Mãori.
 And the good news is, Australia is ahead of the
 curve when it comes to being inclusive. Lisy Kane
 was the first female hire at League of Geeks in 2014
 now the team is 35% women. "The video game
 industry has definitely identified the gender
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Friends, Future, and Love: An Open Letter from the Cast of "Guardians of the Galaxy To our fans and friends: We fully support James Gunn. We were all shocked by his abrupt firing last week and have intentionally waited these ten days to respond in order to think, pray, listen and discuss. In that time, we've been encouraged by the outpouring of support from fans and members of the media who wish to see James reinstated as director of Volume 3 as well as discouraged by those so easily duped into believing the many outlandish conspiracy theories surrounding him Being in the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movies has been a great honor in each of our lives. We cannot let this moment pass without expressing our love, support, and gratitude for James. We are not here to defend his jokes of many years ago but rather to share our experience having spent many years together on set making Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2. The character he has shown in the wake of his firing is consistent with the man he was every day on set, and his apology, now and from years ago when first addressing these remarks, we believe is from the heart, a heart we all know, trust, and love. In casting each of us to help him tell the story of misfit:s who find redemption, he changed our lives forever. We believe the theme of redemption has never been more relevant than novw. Each of us looks forward to working with our friend James again in the future. His story isn't over not by a long shot. There is little due process in the court of public opinion. James is likely not the last good person to be put on trial. Given the growing political divide in this country, it's safe to say instances like this will continue, although we hope Americans from acros:s the political spectrum can ease up on the character assassinations and stop weaponizing mob mentality It is our hope that what has transpired can serve as an example for all of us to realize the enormous responsibility we have to ourselves and to each other regarding the use of our written words when we etch them in digital stone; that we as a society may learn from this experience and in the future will think twice before we decide what we want to express; and in so learning perhaps can harness this capability to help and heal instead of hurting each other. Thank you for taking the time to read our words. The Guardians of the Galaxy Zoe Saldana Chris Prat Dave Bautista Karen Gillan Bradley Cooper Vin Diesel OW Sean Gunn Pom Klementieff Michael Rooker A letter from the GOTG... @prattprattpratt @davebautista @zoesaldana MarvelousJokes
Friends, Future, and Love: An Open Letter from the Cast of "Guardians of the Galaxy
 To our fans and friends:
 We fully support James Gunn. We were all shocked by his abrupt firing last week and
 have intentionally waited these ten days to respond in order to think, pray, listen
 and discuss. In that time, we've been encouraged by the outpouring of support from
 fans and members of the media who wish to see James reinstated as director of
 Volume 3 as well as discouraged by those so easily duped into believing the many
 outlandish conspiracy theories surrounding him
 Being in the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movies has been a great honor in each of our
 lives. We cannot let this moment pass without expressing our love, support, and
 gratitude for James. We are not here to defend his jokes of many years ago but rather
 to share our experience having spent many years together on set making Guardians
 of the Galaxy 1 and 2. The character he has shown in the wake of his firing is
 consistent with the man he was every day on set, and his apology, now and from
 years ago when first addressing these remarks, we believe is from the heart, a heart
 we all know, trust, and love. In casting each of us to help him tell the story of misfit:s
 who find redemption, he changed our lives forever. We believe the theme of
 redemption has never been more relevant than novw.
 Each of us looks forward to working with our friend James again in the future. His
 story isn't over not by a long shot.
 There is little due process in the court of public opinion. James is likely not the last
 good person to be put on trial. Given the growing political divide in this country, it's
 safe to say instances like this will continue, although we hope Americans from acros:s
 the political spectrum can ease up on the character assassinations and stop
 weaponizing mob mentality
 It is our hope that what has transpired can serve as an example for all of us to realize
 the enormous responsibility we have to ourselves and to each other regarding the
 use of our written words when we etch them in digital stone; that we as a society
 may learn from this experience and in the future will think twice before we decide
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Books, Friends, and Memes: A Muslim, A Jew, A Christian, and an Atheist all walk in to a coffee shop... fb/the idealist ...And they Talk, Laugh, Drink coffee and became good friends. Its not a Joke. Its what happens when you're not an asshole. <p><a href="https://dimka234.tumblr.com/post/176402410286/positive-memes-crosspost-from" class="tumblr_blog">dimka234</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="https://positive-memes.tumblr.com/post/176401773805/crosspost-from-rchristianmemes" class="tumblr_blog">positive-memes</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>Crosspost from r/christianmemes</p></blockquote> <p>Nah bud that’s not what would happen because Muslims wouldn’t want to be friends with Christians and Jew so just shut up</p> <h2>Posts like this annoy we,</h2> <p class="npf_quote" data-npf='{"subtype":"quote"}'>Muslims don’t like you it says they shouldn’t like you in the Koran</p> <p>And I would be more then happy to show you the passages that say you should kill non Muslims</p> <p>So nobody’s a “asshole” its just the fact that Muslim people hate you unless the OP is Muslim and in that case they are spreading lies</p> </blockquote> <p>Igonrance like this is the reason why these prejudices exist. Most religious books tell you to kill other people, because they were written in a period when wars were common. Do you think the Bible doesn&rsquo;t tell you to kill non-believers? It does. </p> But people are not stupid. At least, good people are not stupid. They don&rsquo;t go around killing people because a book said so. So if a muslim or a christian kills people because the book said so, they&rsquo;re criminals. Because there are billions of other muslims who DON&rsquo;T kill people. Why do you take as an example one muslim killing people because the book said so, and you dont take as an example 3 billion muslims who DONT kill people?
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<p>Nah bud that’s not what would happen because Muslims wouldn’t want to be friends with Christians and Jew so just shut up</p>
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<p class="npf_quote" data-npf='{"subtype":"quote"}'>Muslims don’t like you it says they shouldn’t like you in the Koran</p>
<p>And I would be more then happy to show you the passages that say you should kill non Muslims</p>
<p>So nobody’s a “asshole” its just the fact that Muslim people hate you unless the OP is Muslim and in that case they are spreading lies</p>
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<p>Igonrance like this is the reason why these prejudices exist.

Most religious books tell you to kill other people, because they were written in a period when wars were common. Do you think the Bible doesn&rsquo;t tell you to kill non-believers? It does.
</p>

But people are not stupid. At least, good people are not stupid. They don&rsquo;t go around killing people because a book said so.

So if a muslim or a christian kills people because the book said so, they&rsquo;re criminals. Because there are billions of other muslims who DON&rsquo;T kill people.

Why do you take as an example one muslim killing people because the book said so, and you dont take as an example 3 billion muslims who DONT kill people?

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Animals, Apparently, and Children: 4G 19:47 nonomella-deactivated20171016 Coraline is a masterfully made film, an amazing piece of art that i would never ever ever show to a child oh my god are you kidding me cthullhu Nothing wrong with a good dose of sheer terror at a young age whatthecurtains "It was a story, I learned when people began to read it, that children experienced as an adventure, but which gave adults nightmares. It's the strangest book I've written" Neil Gaiman on Coraline greenbryn @nightlovechild lierdumoa This is a legit psychology phenomenon tho like theres a stop motion version of Alice and Wonderland that adults find viscerally horrifying, but children think is nbd It's like in that toy story period of development kids are It's like in that 'toy story' period of development kids are all kind of high key convinced that their stuffed animals lead secret lives when they're not looking and that they're sleeping on top of a child-eating monster every night so they see a movie like Coraline and are just like "Ah, yes. A validation of my normal everyday worldview Same thing happened to me last Tuesday night. I told mommy and she just smiled and nodded redgrieve Stephen King had this whole spiel i found really interesting about this phenomenon about how kids have like their own culture and their own literally a different way of viewing and interpreting the world with its own rules that's like secret and removed from adult culture and that you just kinda forget ever existed as you grow up it's apparently why he writes about kids so much 12drakon An open-ended puzzle often gives parents math anxiety while their kids just happily play with it, explore, and learn. I've seen it so many times in math circles. We warn folks about it gokuma Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions stems from the fact in "Coraline" adults see a child in danger - while children see themselves facing danger and winning rosymamacita i never saw so much push back from adults towards YA literature as when middle aged women started reading The Hunger Games. They were horrified that kids would be given such harsh stories, and I kept trying to point out the NECESSITY of confronting these hard issues in a safe fictional environment. jewishdragon Also, in an interview, he said that Coraline was partially based on a story his not yet 6 year old daughter would tell him SAGAL: No. I mean, for example, your incredibly successful young adult novel "Coraline" is about a young girl in house in which there's a hole in the wall that leads to a very mysterious and very evil world. So when you were a kid, is that what you imagined? GAIMAN: When I was a kid, we actually lived in a house that had been divided in two at one point, which meant that one room in our house opened up onto a brick wall And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the 4G 19:47 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the right way and it wouldn't be a brick wall. So l'd sidle over to the door and l'd pull it open SOUNDBITE OF LAUGHTER) SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: And it was always a brick wal SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: But it was one of those things that as I grew older, I carried it with me and I thought, I want to send somebody through that door. And when I came to write a story for my daughter Holly, at the time she was a 4 or 5-year-old girl. She'd come home from nursery. She'd seen me writing all day. So she'd come and climb on my ap and dictate stories to me. And it'd always be about small giris named Holl SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: Who would come home to normally find their mother had been kidnapped by a witch and replaced by evil people who wanted to kill her and she'd have to go off and escape. And I thought, great, what a fun kid wetwareproblem "Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey O4G19:47 Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon." - G. K. Chesterton 571,703 notas TF te wtf-fun-factss WTF fun fact #8976 A group of sperm whales adopted a bottlenose dolphin with a spinal deformation, after it was lost from its own dolphin group. Different ages, different fears.
Animals, Apparently, and Children: 4G
 19:47
 nonomella-deactivated20171016
 Coraline is a masterfully made film, an amazing piece
 of art that i would never ever ever show to a child oh my
 god are you kidding me
 cthullhu
 Nothing wrong with a good dose of sheer terror at a
 young age
 whatthecurtains
 "It was a story, I learned when people began to read it,
 that children experienced as an adventure, but which
 gave adults nightmares. It's the strangest book I've
 written"
 Neil Gaiman on Coraline
 greenbryn
 @nightlovechild
 lierdumoa
 This is a legit psychology phenomenon tho like theres
 a stop motion version of Alice and Wonderland that
 adults find viscerally horrifying, but children think is nbd
 It's like in that toy story period of development kids are

 It's like in that 'toy story' period of development kids are
 all kind of high key convinced that their stuffed animals
 lead secret lives when they're not looking and that
 they're sleeping on top of a child-eating monster every
 night so they see a movie like Coraline and are just like
 "Ah, yes. A validation of my normal everyday worldview
 Same thing happened to me last Tuesday night. I told
 mommy and she just smiled and nodded
 redgrieve
 Stephen King had this whole spiel i found really
 interesting about this phenomenon about how kids have
 like their own culture and their own literally a different
 way of viewing and interpreting the world with its own
 rules that's like secret and removed from adult culture
 and that you just kinda forget ever existed as you grow
 up it's apparently why he writes about kids so much
 12drakon
 An open-ended puzzle often gives parents math anxiety
 while their kids just happily play with it, explore, and
 learn. I've seen it so many times in math circles. We
 warn folks about it
 gokuma
 Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions

 Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions
 stems from the fact in "Coraline" adults see a child in
 danger - while children see themselves facing danger
 and winning
 rosymamacita
 i never saw so much push back from adults towards YA
 literature as when middle aged women started reading
 The Hunger Games. They were horrified that kids would
 be given such harsh stories, and I kept trying to point
 out the NECESSITY of confronting these hard issues in
 a safe fictional environment.
 jewishdragon
 Also, in an interview, he said that Coraline was partially
 based on a story his not yet 6 year old daughter would
 tell him
 SAGAL: No. I mean, for example, your incredibly
 successful young adult novel "Coraline" is about a
 young girl in house in which there's a hole in the wall
 that leads to a very mysterious and very evil world. So
 when you were a kid, is that what you imagined?
 GAIMAN: When I was a kid, we actually lived in a house
 that had been divided in two at one point, which meant
 that one room in our house opened up onto a brick wall
 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the

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 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the
 right way and it wouldn't be a brick wall. So l'd sidle over
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 GAIMAN: And it was always a brick wal
 SAGAL: Right
 GAIMAN: But it was one of those things that as I grew
 older, I carried it with me and I thought, I want to send
 somebody through that door. And when I came to write
 a story for my daughter Holly, at the time she was a 4
 or 5-year-old girl. She'd come home from nursery. She'd
 seen me writing all day. So she'd come and climb on my
 ap and dictate stories to me. And it'd always be about
 small giris named Holl
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 GAIMAN: Who would come home to normally find their
 mother had been kidnapped by a witch and replaced by
 evil people who wanted to kill her and she'd have to go
 off and escape. And I thought, great, what a fun kid
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 Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey.
 What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of
 the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the
 dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination.
 What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill
 the dragon." - G. K. Chesterton
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 A group of sperm whales adopted a bottlenose dolphin with a
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Different ages, different fears.

Different ages, different fears.

Drinking, Energy, and Life: THE LAST STRAW TOSSEL on Reason <p><a href="http://redbloodedamerica.tumblr.com/post/176022832961/plastic-straw-myths-do-you-enjoy-sipping" class="tumblr_blog">redbloodedamerica</a>:</p> <blockquote><h2> Plastic Straw Myths </h2><blockquote><p> Do you enjoy sipping drinks through plastic straws?  Well, if activists get their way you won’t be allowed to anymore.  “These must be banned,” they say.  </p><p>Why?</p><p>When celebrities speak, politicians listen.  Seattle recently banned straws, and other places want to do the same.  “The idea that you’re going to ban straws and save the world is ridiculous.”  Angela Logomasini studies environmental issues at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.  What will banning plastic straws accomplish?  “Probably nothing at all.  It might make some people in Hollywood feel good.  It may make some politicians feel good, like they’re doing something.  It might sound good at parties, but it’s not going to solve any problems.” </p><p>Plastic pollution in the ocean <i>is</i> a real problem, but only about 1% of it comes from the United States.  Of that 1%, a tiny amount comes from plastic straws.  But what about that 500 million number?  Where do they all get that number?  They got it from this child’s school project.  He says he got the 500 million straws a day figure through a phone survey he conducted with straw manufacturers.  The media just accepts his 500 million number.  But the actual number is much lower according to the analysis firm Technomic.  </p><p>Okay, so activists and media exaggerate the problem.  Still they promised it would be easy to get rid of the straws. “If we can reduce something that is easy, that is polluting in the environment, that is getting stuck in turtles’ noses and causing damage to the environment, let’s do that,” says progressive talk show host Ethan Bearman.  “Sometimes we do need a little gentle guiding hand from government.”  <i>Governments gentle guiding hand</i> will either ban straws or order us to replace this cheap plastic straw with ones like these made of paper or bamboo.  “Plastic doesn’t actually biodegrade.  So unlike a lot of other things, paper, for example, actually breaks down into other components.”  </p><p>That’s not a good thing.  That means paper straws break down, even while you’re using them.  They get soggy, they leak.  “That’s the beauty of plastic, it’s enduring,” says Logomasini, “Paper straws are going to break down while you’re drinking with it.”  Paper and bamboo straws aren’t environmentally pristine either.  Paper products take more energy and more effort to produce.  You’re going to have a net negative environmental impact.  The paper doesn’t degrade in a landfill either.  Everything is essentially mummified.  <b>You’re replacing a superior product with an inferior one and you’re asking people to pay more for it.</b> It doesn’t make a lot of sense,” she says. </p><p>It doesn’t, and the higher price is the final result.  Paper straws are eight times more expensive to make than plastic straws.  Won’t this hurt businesses?  “I don’t think so.  Maybe people won’t use straws,” claims New York City Councilman Barry Grodenchik.   “If it’s a $1.79 to get the fountain drink at Joe’s corner deli that we’re talking about, and now it’s a $1.83, I don’t see that as being a huge difference in the price,” says Bearman.  </p><p>“This is what environmentalists will say about <i>every</i> policy they put out.  A few cents here, a few cents there eventually begins to become a burden,” explains Logomasini.  We don’t need straws.  “You know a lot of things in life are not <i>necessary</i>, but beneficial and enjoyable.  Banning straws isn’t going to do anything for the environment.  So what they’re just trying to do is take away my freedom for nothing in return.”  </p><p>As the environment has become cleaner, that’s become a specialty of the environmental movement: spend <i>your</i> money on feel-good policies that make no real difference.<br/></p></blockquote></blockquote>
Drinking, Energy, and Life: THE LAST
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 TOSSEL
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<blockquote><h2>

Plastic Straw Myths

</h2><blockquote><p>

Do you enjoy sipping drinks through plastic straws?  Well, if activists get their way you won’t be allowed to anymore.  “These must be banned,” they say.  </p><p>Why?</p><p>When celebrities speak, politicians listen.  Seattle recently banned straws, and other places want to do the same.  “The idea that you’re going to ban straws and save the world is ridiculous.”  Angela Logomasini studies environmental issues at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.  What will banning plastic straws accomplish?  “Probably nothing at all.  It might make some people in Hollywood feel good.  It may make some politicians feel good, like they’re doing something.  It might sound good at parties, but it’s not going to solve any problems.” </p><p>Plastic pollution in the ocean <i>is</i> a real problem, but only about 1% of it comes from the United States.  Of that 1%, a tiny amount comes from plastic straws.  But what about that 500 million number?  Where do they all get that number?  They got it from this child’s school project.  He says he got the 500 million straws a day figure through a phone survey he conducted with straw manufacturers.  The media just accepts his 500 million number.  But the actual number is much lower according to the analysis firm Technomic.  </p><p>Okay, so activists and media exaggerate the problem.  Still they promised it would be easy to get rid of the straws. “If we can reduce something that is easy, that is polluting in the environment, that is getting stuck in turtles’ noses and causing damage to the environment, let’s do that,” says progressive talk show host Ethan Bearman.  “Sometimes we do need a little gentle guiding hand from government.”  <i>Governments gentle guiding hand</i> will either ban straws or order us to replace this cheap plastic straw with ones like these made of paper or bamboo.  “Plastic doesn’t actually biodegrade.  So unlike a lot of other things, paper, for example, actually breaks down into other components.”  </p><p>That’s not a good thing.  That means paper straws break down, even while you’re using them.  They get soggy, they leak.  “That’s the beauty of plastic, it’s enduring,” says Logomasini, “Paper straws are going to break down while you’re drinking with it.”  Paper and bamboo straws aren’t environmentally pristine either.  Paper products take more energy and more effort to produce.  You’re going to have a net negative environmental impact.  The paper doesn’t degrade in a landfill either.  Everything is essentially mummified.  <b>You’re replacing a superior product with an inferior one and you’re asking people to pay more for it.</b> It doesn’t make a lot of sense,” she says. </p><p>It doesn’t, and the higher price is the final result.  Paper straws are eight times more expensive to make than plastic straws.  Won’t this hurt businesses?  “I don’t think so.  Maybe people won’t use straws,” claims New York City Councilman Barry Grodenchik.   “If it’s a $1.79 to get the fountain drink at Joe’s corner deli that we’re talking about, and now it’s a $1.83, I don’t see that as being a huge difference in the price,” says Bearman.  </p><p>“This is what environmentalists will say about <i>every</i> policy they put out.  A few cents here, a few cents there eventually begins to become a burden,” explains Logomasini.  We don’t need straws.  “You know a lot of things in life are not <i>necessary</i>, but beneficial and enjoyable.  Banning straws isn’t going to do anything for the environment.  So what they’re just trying to do is take away my freedom for nothing in return.”  </p><p>As the environment has become cleaner, that’s become a specialty of the environmental movement: spend <i>your</i> money on feel-good policies that make no real difference.<br/></p></blockquote></blockquote>

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