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Yeah, there’s a reason for that.
It’s called: antisemitic caricature.


I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? 
I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:
Here’s a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.

Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. 

omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement

So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.
You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 
One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.

Reblogging again for these additions.


I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.
Stay cognizant!  

This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️

I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by.


Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
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 Dra Cuddy:Mother Gothel
 by Aveku-chan-Kataang
 Customization /Wallpaper/ People / Females @2011-2016 Aveku-chan-Kataang
 YES! C'MON! 8DDD
galotheshroom:
ava-burton-writing:

dragonenby:

writingwithcolor:

so-many-miles-to-go:

aworldinneedofmagic:

the-independent-jew:

so-many-miles-to-go:

smol-mother-rose:

so-many-miles-to-go:


Yeah, there’s a reason for that.
It’s called: antisemitic caricature.


I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? 
I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:
Here’s a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.

Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. 

omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement

So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.
You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 
One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.

Reblogging again for these additions.


I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.
Stay cognizant!  

This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️

I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by.


Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.
                
            

            
            
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 YES! C'MON! 8DDD
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<p>Yeah, there’s a reason for that.</p>
<p>It’s called: <b>antisemitic caricature.</b></p>
</blockquote>

<p>I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? </p>
<p>I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.</p>
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<p>dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.</p>
<p>Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  </p>
<hr><p>This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  <b><i>Rapunzel</i></b> has the “typical Disney face”:</p>
<figure data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c6a02d31e5325ce3897ea40bca1db98c/tumblr_inline_oi1alyTZwN1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Here’s a more close up look at her features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/81263a61b9b531b9a037bb3c2474d87d/tumblr_inline_oi1amcSI571u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414"/></figure><p>The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”</p>
<figure data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2cab6154654958a036ca5787f037fb2a/tumblr_inline_oi1ampHH5I1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531"/></figure><hr><p>If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).</p>
<p>But here is what we have is -</p>
<p><b>small noses that turn up at the end:</b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/795ee2dbccf93c8be84f2e494375d885/tumblr_inline_oi1an5YIKL1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313"/></figure><p><b>wide, flatter noses</b> (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)</p>
<figure data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/cf1bb1115b150fc66fe3a135c2b1f7ae/tumblr_inline_oi1anhfdcO1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310"/></figure><p>And then a few <b>misc noses</b> (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):</p>
<figure data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4c972fc2df9f1f9fd3025d72babafcef/tumblr_inline_oi1anq7O7d1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155"/></figure><hr><p>Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: <b>“obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”</b></p>
<p>Like that right there <b><i>on top of</i> </b>the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.</p>
<p><b>There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  </b></p>
<p>Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded <b>heroes</b>. Rapunzel does not have that.</p>
<p>Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.</p>
<p>Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<hr><p><b>EDIT: </b><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mjHVWLfz9CujkJO8PWDNbUA">@ariminak</a> pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features <i>only</i> stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.</p>
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<p>Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. <br/></p>
</blockquote>
<p>omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement</p>
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<p>So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.</p>
<p>Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.</p>
<p>You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  </p>
<p>But seeing how<a href="http://aworldinneedofmagic.tumblr.com/post/148709289078/drwhothefuckyouthinkyoutalkinto-gelopanda"> you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to <i>an entire race</i> of people ISN’T racist</a>, you really don’t get any say on any of this.</p>
<p>So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.</p>
<p><b>Let’s play a game I like to call: <i>Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:</i></b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ef40a021948f154c0b106784323660aa/tumblr_inline_oii52q367I1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446"/></figure><p>Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  <b>Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. </b></p>
<p>One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  </p>
<figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a26a0b8632d40346b1b4541b6829f02/tumblr_inline_oii6kjyfLA1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ad784bf14cf3600fc783cb3f6b9f0c70/tumblr_inline_oii6kjtoI61u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8163c91a59863a27fef98dcb16bd8782/tumblr_inline_oii6kk5zKZ1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741"/></figure><p>They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie. <b> At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.</b></p>
<p>It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.</p>
<p>You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character. <b> It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.</b></p>
<p>And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  <b>When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.</b></p>
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<p>Reblogging again for these additions.</p>
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<p>I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.</p>
<p>Stay cognizant!  </p>
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<p>This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️</p>
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<p>I have a feeling this is all baseless, and groundless. If you’re assuming a character has to be a negative Jewish stereotype because you stereotype those features as bein Jewish. The one with the issue might be you</p>
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<p>Mother Gothel has a similar facial structure as Cruella De Vil. Pointy cheekbones and chin, etc. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2ca38ab88da550b0df2c068dd610b59e/tumblr_inline_pc3u94DPjC1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/20fba8157c93162a45ad83687045c4f4/tumblr_inline_pc3u9lFuTT1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458"/></figure><p>She isn’t any shade specifically darker than any of the other characters. They deliberately chose pictures where Mother Gothel is either in the darkened tower, or it is night time. </p>
<p>Also, they only compared Mother Gothel to other Disney protags rather than other Disney villains or even Disney characters who are older. Disney typically uses very angular features to convey villains. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a3257bff02583d7625f8fcc6d0450151/tumblr_inline_pc3uhqneNm1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/eff51a7ac3da026cbd5c35bd2306849c/tumblr_inline_pc3ui75cWO1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4ca1d9a7d7d1d683fd24d2c7f6246df5/tumblr_inline_pc3yjcMx4N1tx5uef_1280.png" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d881a63a0254cc8fbf8eaa8492f1fd52/tumblr_inline_pc3uji270c1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c053cbc17b4281c43e68dcf5d064a1c/tumblr_inline_pc3uuf11sU1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"/></figure><p>Cruella has an upwards turned nose like most disney protags. It’s just sharper to go along with her other angular features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d000718627c5d7f706927ed24f5fdb53/tumblr_inline_pc3uvwOH951tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c1714d66f95acfb83d0fa651a638290/tumblr_inline_pc3uw9SJcB1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Hell you can even compare her to Maleficent</p>
<figure data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f71a5ad89503be687d6983421b7ee8f4/tumblr_inline_pc3uxnYbqh1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/194eadb0b5f82c48995786391f23de4d/tumblr_inline_pc3v17KSkb1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418"/></figure><p>Who you can see has no hooked or curved nose. In fact, her nose is more flat, similar to Jasmine.</p>
<p>Also, many characters change from their concept art. Dr. Facilier went from this</p>
<figure data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8a288ad68dcba5beb215b58355329452/tumblr_inline_pc3upqCyHv1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><p>to this </p>
<figure data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8f165821d091d813a248966d7f907eaf/tumblr_inline_pc3uqz4ODa1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800"/></figure><p>The change from her hair being straight to curly has nothing to do with making her more “Jewish coded”. It’s the visual difference between her and Rapunzel, also, if anyone has forgotten… <i>Rapunzel’s natural hair color is brown, not blonde.</i></p>
<figure data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/54cf4524541b7c090e850bbe5e8f216d/tumblr_inline_pc3v6dvQEX1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460"/></figure><p>If they wanted to make a character Jewish coded, then why just stop at curly hair and hooked nose? Many people, of various religions, races, and cultures have hooked noses and curly dark hair. Why not just go the full yard if you wanted to make a Jewish coded character that is anti-Semitic? Why not give her Jewish clothing and make her look ugly, gross, and dirty? </p>
<figure data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e1be5f1a6be51a1d48f412816d5eabd/tumblr_inline_pc3v9nvIuZ1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ab077d76ddf1a292292d6bc02440a081/tumblr_inline_pc3va6j6LP1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d59c6b2ad84f8509e38267470b500ffb/tumblr_inline_pc3vb30xWY1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/44e6d379c41c9d3b418ad21fbf60cb23/tumblr_inline_pc3vbmA1ES1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600"/></figure><p>They deliberately manipulated information and pointed out something and said, “See, Jewish stereotype.” even though you can see from mother Gothel’s profile picture, <i>her nose isn’t even hooked</i>. They’re picking out things that <i>could be</i> Jewish features or stereotypes and then saying that they are. </p>
<p>“She’s greedy and evil” and so are pretty much all other Disney Villains. Ya know… gotta be evil to be a villain. Dr. Faciler, Gaston, The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Jafar, Scar… need I list more villains? Being evil and greedy =/= being jewish coded because evil and greedy are common traits of villains, <i>even within </i><br/></p>
<p>“She has dark curly hair” so does Esmeralda and Moana. <br/></p>
<p>“Hooked nose.” her nose isn’t even hooked. It’s flat, similar to Maleficent’s. Anytime someone’s head is bent or leaning forward, naturally, their nose will appear more hooked. that’s just anatomy. That happens to <i>everyone</i>. Hell, you can even see in the images <i>her nose isn’t hooked</i>. <br/></p>
<p>If you can’t tell the difference between a Jewish caricature and Mother Gothel, then I think that’s a you problem. Stereotypes are not exclusive to one group. In fact, implying that is <i>even more racist and anti-semitic </i>than the character. </p>
<p>Hell, in fact, prior to the 20th century, <i>red curly hair</i> was associated with Jewish people. So by that logic, Merida must be Jewish coded… but because she is <i>good</i> and looks like a Disney protag, she <i>can’t</i> be Jewish coded because she doesn’t have enough “Jewish stereotypes”. </p>
<p>The stereotype of Jewish people being greedy originates from when Jewish people were legally restricted to being usurers… Which is where the stereotype comes from. However, even in Jewish religion and mythology, greed, as in any other religion, is often portrayed as a negative or bad trait. </p>
<p>The irony is that they can only see Jewish stereotypes in <i>villainous characters</i> but can’t see any in the protagonists or heroes.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/5dab9038b1c45aa7d8afd2a14fd57fdd/tumblr_inline_pc3wmuk1ny1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400"/></figure><p>Esmeralda (from Frollo’s perspective) is associated with sin and temptation… which is another Jewish stereotype (Beautiful Jewess / Belle Juive) and she has dark, curly hair (another Jewish stereotype). </p>
<p>Merida has curly red hair, which was a Jewish stereotype before the 10th century. If we’re going this loosely based on stereotypes, you can even argue that Queen Eleanor is “Jewish-coded” because she is nagging, protective, and motherly. Ya know, the Jewish mother/wife stereotype. </p>
<p>So you have two arguably Jewish-coded heroines and protags yet no one can see the Jewish stereotypes in them because they are <i>the good guys</i>. Or because they don’t have <i>certain</i> Jewish stereotypes.</p>
<p>The thing is, stereotypes, are not all inherently bad, or rather, not all stereotypes are negative. Not all stereotypes originate from oppressors or people that are anti-semitic, racist, etc. Some stereotypes are often used as stock characters by people of a race or culture. Not every stereotype is exclusive to Jewish people either or even originates with anti-semitism. </p>
<p>If you can <i>only</i> see yourself in villains then maybe it’s you rather than the creators or characters. You literally picked the bare minimum and made a mountain out of an ant hill.</p>
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<p>Maybe it’s me, but isn’t that shape of nose called the ROMAN nose? The propaganda ones seem a lot fatter and bulbous to me.</p>
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They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.

</i></p><p>Why, yes, the child kidnapper and abuser villain whose entire character motivation is based on <b>being different</b> is designed not to look like regular people, especially her “daughter”. Even her clothes are deliberately anachronistic.</p></blockquote>

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<p>Yeah, there’s a reason for that.</p>
<p>It’s called: <b>antisemitic caricature.</b></p>
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<p>I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? </p>
<p>I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.</p>
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<p>dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.</p>
<p>Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  </p>
<hr><p>This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  <b><i>Rapunzel</i></b> has the “typical Disney face”:</p>
<figure data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c6a02d31e5325ce3897ea40bca1db98c/tumblr_inline_oi1alyTZwN1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Here’s a more close up look at her features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/81263a61b9b531b9a037bb3c2474d87d/tumblr_inline_oi1amcSI571u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414"/></figure><p>The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”</p>
<figure data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2cab6154654958a036ca5787f037fb2a/tumblr_inline_oi1ampHH5I1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531"/></figure><hr><p>If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).</p>
<p>But here is what we have is -</p>
<p><b>small noses that turn up at the end:</b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/795ee2dbccf93c8be84f2e494375d885/tumblr_inline_oi1an5YIKL1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313"/></figure><p><b>wide, flatter noses</b> (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)</p>
<figure data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/cf1bb1115b150fc66fe3a135c2b1f7ae/tumblr_inline_oi1anhfdcO1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310"/></figure><p>And then a few <b>misc noses</b> (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):</p>
<figure data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4c972fc2df9f1f9fd3025d72babafcef/tumblr_inline_oi1anq7O7d1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155"/></figure><hr><p>Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: <b>“obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”</b></p>
<p>Like that right there <b><i>on top of</i> </b>the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.</p>
<p><b>There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  </b></p>
<p>Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded <b>heroes</b>. Rapunzel does not have that.</p>
<p>Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.</p>
<p>Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<hr><p><b>EDIT: </b><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mjHVWLfz9CujkJO8PWDNbUA">@ariminak</a> pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features <i>only</i> stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.</p>
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<p>Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. <br/></p>
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<p>omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement</p>
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<p>So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.</p>
<p>Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.</p>
<p>You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  </p>
<p>But seeing how<a href="http://aworldinneedofmagic.tumblr.com/post/148709289078/drwhothefuckyouthinkyoutalkinto-gelopanda"> you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to <i>an entire race</i> of people ISN’T racist</a>, you really don’t get any say on any of this.</p>
<p>So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.</p>
<p><b>Let’s play a game I like to call: <i>Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:</i></b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ef40a021948f154c0b106784323660aa/tumblr_inline_oii52q367I1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446"/></figure><p>Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  <b>Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. </b></p>
<p>One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  </p>
<figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a26a0b8632d40346b1b4541b6829f02/tumblr_inline_oii6kjyfLA1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ad784bf14cf3600fc783cb3f6b9f0c70/tumblr_inline_oii6kjtoI61u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8163c91a59863a27fef98dcb16bd8782/tumblr_inline_oii6kk5zKZ1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741"/></figure><p>They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie. <b> At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.</b></p>
<p>It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.</p>
<p>You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character. <b> It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.</b></p>
<p>And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  <b>When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.</b></p>
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<p>Reblogging again for these additions.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.</p>
<p>Stay cognizant!  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I have a feeling this is all baseless, and groundless. If you’re assuming a character has to be a negative Jewish stereotype because you stereotype those features as bein Jewish. The one with the issue might be you</p>
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<p>Mother Gothel has a similar facial structure as Cruella De Vil. Pointy cheekbones and chin, etc. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2ca38ab88da550b0df2c068dd610b59e/tumblr_inline_pc3u94DPjC1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/20fba8157c93162a45ad83687045c4f4/tumblr_inline_pc3u9lFuTT1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458"/></figure><p>She isn’t any shade specifically darker than any of the other characters. They deliberately chose pictures where Mother Gothel is either in the darkened tower, or it is night time. </p>
<p>Also, they only compared Mother Gothel to other Disney protags rather than other Disney villains or even Disney characters who are older. Disney typically uses very angular features to convey villains. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a3257bff02583d7625f8fcc6d0450151/tumblr_inline_pc3uhqneNm1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/eff51a7ac3da026cbd5c35bd2306849c/tumblr_inline_pc3ui75cWO1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4ca1d9a7d7d1d683fd24d2c7f6246df5/tumblr_inline_pc3yjcMx4N1tx5uef_1280.png" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d881a63a0254cc8fbf8eaa8492f1fd52/tumblr_inline_pc3uji270c1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c053cbc17b4281c43e68dcf5d064a1c/tumblr_inline_pc3uuf11sU1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"/></figure><p>Cruella has an upwards turned nose like most disney protags. It’s just sharper to go along with her other angular features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d000718627c5d7f706927ed24f5fdb53/tumblr_inline_pc3uvwOH951tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c1714d66f95acfb83d0fa651a638290/tumblr_inline_pc3uw9SJcB1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Hell you can even compare her to Maleficent</p>
<figure data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f71a5ad89503be687d6983421b7ee8f4/tumblr_inline_pc3uxnYbqh1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/194eadb0b5f82c48995786391f23de4d/tumblr_inline_pc3v17KSkb1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418"/></figure><p>Who you can see has no hooked or curved nose. In fact, her nose is more flat, similar to Jasmine.</p>
<p>Also, many characters change from their concept art. Dr. Facilier went from this</p>
<figure data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8a288ad68dcba5beb215b58355329452/tumblr_inline_pc3upqCyHv1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><p>to this </p>
<figure data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8f165821d091d813a248966d7f907eaf/tumblr_inline_pc3uqz4ODa1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800"/></figure><p>The change from her hair being straight to curly has nothing to do with making her more “Jewish coded”. It’s the visual difference between her and Rapunzel, also, if anyone has forgotten… <i>Rapunzel’s natural hair color is brown, not blonde.</i></p>
<figure data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/54cf4524541b7c090e850bbe5e8f216d/tumblr_inline_pc3v6dvQEX1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460"/></figure><p>If they wanted to make a character Jewish coded, then why just stop at curly hair and hooked nose? Many people, of various religions, races, and cultures have hooked noses and curly dark hair. Why not just go the full yard if you wanted to make a Jewish coded character that is anti-Semitic? Why not give her Jewish clothing and make her look ugly, gross, and dirty? </p>
<figure data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e1be5f1a6be51a1d48f412816d5eabd/tumblr_inline_pc3v9nvIuZ1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ab077d76ddf1a292292d6bc02440a081/tumblr_inline_pc3va6j6LP1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d59c6b2ad84f8509e38267470b500ffb/tumblr_inline_pc3vb30xWY1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/44e6d379c41c9d3b418ad21fbf60cb23/tumblr_inline_pc3vbmA1ES1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600"/></figure><p>They deliberately manipulated information and pointed out something and said, “See, Jewish stereotype.” even though you can see from mother Gothel’s profile picture, <i>her nose isn’t even hooked</i>. They’re picking out things that <i>could be</i> Jewish features or stereotypes and then saying that they are. </p>
<p>“She’s greedy and evil” and so are pretty much all other Disney Villains. Ya know… gotta be evil to be a villain. Dr. Faciler, Gaston, The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Jafar, Scar… need I list more villains? Being evil and greedy =/= being jewish coded because evil and greedy are common traits of villains, <i>even within </i><br/></p>
<p>“She has dark curly hair” so does Esmeralda and Moana. <br/></p>
<p>“Hooked nose.” her nose isn’t even hooked. It’s flat, similar to Maleficent’s. Anytime someone’s head is bent or leaning forward, naturally, their nose will appear more hooked. that’s just anatomy. That happens to <i>everyone</i>. Hell, you can even see in the images <i>her nose isn’t hooked</i>. <br/></p>
<p>If you can’t tell the difference between a Jewish caricature and Mother Gothel, then I think that’s a you problem. Stereotypes are not exclusive to one group. In fact, implying that is <i>even more racist and anti-semitic </i>than the character. </p>
<p>Hell, in fact, prior to the 20th century, <i>red curly hair</i> was associated with Jewish people. So by that logic, Merida must be Jewish coded… but because she is <i>good</i> and looks like a Disney protag, she <i>can’t</i> be Jewish coded because she doesn’t have enough “Jewish stereotypes”. </p>
<p>The stereotype of Jewish people being greedy originates from when Jewish people were legally restricted to being usurers… Which is where the stereotype comes from. However, even in Jewish religion and mythology, greed, as in any other religion, is often portrayed as a negative or bad trait. </p>
<p>The irony is that they can only see Jewish stereotypes in <i>villainous characters</i> but can’t see any in the protagonists or heroes.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/5dab9038b1c45aa7d8afd2a14fd57fdd/tumblr_inline_pc3wmuk1ny1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400"/></figure><p>Esmeralda (from Frollo’s perspective) is associated with sin and temptation… which is another Jewish stereotype (Beautiful Jewess / Belle Juive) and she has dark, curly hair (another Jewish stereotype). </p>
<p>Merida has curly red hair, which was a Jewish stereotype before the 10th century. If we’re going this loosely based on stereotypes, you can even argue that Queen Eleanor is “Jewish-coded” because she is nagging, protective, and motherly. Ya know, the Jewish mother/wife stereotype. </p>
<p>So you have two arguably Jewish-coded heroines and protags yet no one can see the Jewish stereotypes in them because they are <i>the good guys</i>. Or because they don’t have <i>certain</i> Jewish stereotypes.</p>
<p>The thing is, stereotypes, are not all inherently bad, or rather, not all stereotypes are negative. Not all stereotypes originate from oppressors or people that are anti-semitic, racist, etc. Some stereotypes are often used as stock characters by people of a race or culture. Not every stereotype is exclusive to Jewish people either or even originates with anti-semitism. </p>
<p>If you can <i>only</i> see yourself in villains then maybe it’s you rather than the creators or characters. You literally picked the bare minimum and made a mountain out of an ant hill.</p>
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<p>Maybe it’s me, but isn’t that shape of nose called the ROMAN nose? The propaganda ones seem a lot fatter and bulbous to me.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><i>&gt;

They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.

</i></p><p>Why, yes, the child kidnapper and abuser villain whose entire character motivation is based on <b>being different</b> is designed not to look like regular people, especially her “daughter”. Even her clothes are deliberately anachronistic.</p></blockquote>

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    insidious: Woman Asks Why A Guy She Turned
 Down Didn't Try Harder, Gets The
 Perfect Response
 Like Bored Panda on FB
 Like 13M
 4 days ago by Rokas
 A guy invites a girl on a date, tries all of his best moves, but she says no. A guy has to move on,
 otherwise, it's harassment. Unless it isn't? Recently, a girl surprised the internet when she posted a
 question on Quora, asking why her date wasn't a mind reader.
 She wrote, "A guy asked me out today and I told him "no', but I wanted him to try harder. Why didn't
 he try again?" Naturally, a question like this deserves something more than a simple answer, an
 answer that's written in the same language. Luckily, Ron Rule typed a response the inquirer
 should've understood. Scroll down to check out what he wrote!
 Someone surprised Quora with a strange question
 A guy asked me out today and
 I told him "no", but I wanted
 him to try harder. Why didn't
 he try again?

 Luckily, this guy responded with an example the inquirer
 had to understand
 Ron Rule, CEO @ As Seen On TV L+
 Answered Feb 3
 A girl asked me what I wanted for lunch
 and I said "pizza", but I really wanted
 steak. Why did she bring me pizza?
 CS.
 Do you see how stupid that question sounds?
 That's how your question sounds.

 Amused by the exchange, people started sharing their
 own experiences
 Malovus 5 pts
 I had a girl dump me once, a month later she started
 sending me angry texts about how I didn't fight to
 keep her and she was only testing me
 FriendlyNeighborhoodUrologist 1,153 pts
 Same scenario happened to me a year back. She
 freaked out "what do you mean 'Ok' don't you want to
 keep me?"
 BobLeeSw4ger 20 pts
 I asked a girl out. Was declined. She told my brother i
 took it like a gentleman. Little flirt later guess who got
 that date.

 MrFnortner 336 pts
 My wife does that. Her: You want chicken or salman?
 Me: Salmon. Her: Well I need to cook the chicken
 before it spoils. Me: Well, why did...
 Icommentandpostmypets 4,516 pts
 Play stupid games, win nothing of value. Had a ex do
 this. Dated a month, asked me to just be friends. Said
 sure. Got mad I didn't fight.
 MakingYouReadThingsInSamElliottsVoice 15 pts
 "No means no, except when a guy is supposed to read
 minds and know it doesn't, but it may later mean no,
 unless the girl changes her mind."

 intaglioguy 9 pts
 "I wanted to play games. He didn't play along. I've de-
 cided to blame him so I can avoid personal responsibil-
 ity for my actions."
 TheGirlInTheFireplace 7 pts
 No, sh't like this pisses me off. My last gf of 8 years
 left me on the day I was going out to buy a ring for
 her because she 'didn't feel wanted enough'. It tore
 me apart inside but I learned to move on. Kinda. A
 few months later she texted me and told me the
 reason she left me was because she wanted me to
 chase after her. I WANTED TO SO BADLY but I
 thought "It's over" meant it was over. No one will
<p><a href="http://the-memeblades-chosen-one.tumblr.com/post/171072958064/celticpyro-eeveelutionsforequality" class="tumblr_blog">the-memeblades-chosen-one</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://celticpyro.tumblr.com/post/171069509284/eeveelutionsforequality-someoneintheshadow446" class="tumblr_blog">celticpyro</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/171057059312/someoneintheshadow446-apparently-this-isnt-a-bad" class="tumblr_blog">eeveelutionsforequality</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://someoneintheshadow446.tumblr.com/post/171056525840/apparently-this-isnt-a-bad-stereotype-from" class="tumblr_blog">someoneintheshadow446</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Apparently this isn’t a bad stereotype from sitcoms and that real women who do this exist. </p></blockquote>
<p>It’s not just women, I’ve dated women and guys who do this. I’m not the kind of person who “fights for” anybody - if they say that they’re leaving, of course I’ll ask why and talk it through with them, but I’m not going to buy a bouquet and appear at their door at 3am to try to get something from them that they said they didn’t want to give. The amount of times that I’ve heard “If you really loved me, you’d fight for me.” and I’ve been like “Well, if I really respected you and cared for you then I’d want you to be happy, rather than wanting you to do whatever it is that I want you to do.” and they come out with “So, what, you don’t want to be with me?” and I’m like “It’s not about what I want. If I wanted somebody’s watch and they didn’t want to give me the watch, I wouldn’t just take the watch. This is no different.” and then they push and push like “Just tell me that you want to be with me and I’ll stay.” and I’m like “I’m not going to do that, I want you to do what will make you happy.” and then I get called a heartless psychopath who never loved them and will never love anybody… so that’s fun.
</p>
<p>~ Vape </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Just…don’t do this. This is bad. Communicate clearly, some people will think you actually mean what you say and others are struggling with social skills enough. If you want to stay, stay. Don’t say ‘no’ and expect someone to not respect your answer. Heck, why would you WANT someone to not respect your boundaries?</p>
<p>Stuff like this ruins the legitimacy of ‘No means no’ and #MeToo. <br/></p>
</blockquote>

<p><i><a href="http://the-memeblades-chosen-one.tumblr.com/post/170364684149/maybe-heshe-is-just-playing-hard-to-get-ok">throw back to what I said about mind games/“playing hard to get”</a></i></p>
</blockquote>

<p>I knew someone in my church girls small group when I was a young teenager who bragged about how her mother purposely cut off all communication with her father (before they were together) in order to see how hard he would work to contact her. I distinctly remember saying I thought that was stupid and everyone else in the room shooting me down and saying it was romantic and great that she was “playing hard to get“ to “get him to pursue her“ and honestly screw that noise. Life‘s too short for head games and in this climate especially guys would be a whole lot less inclined to keep pursuing a woman who declined them for fear of being accused of something insidious. Just be honest, people.</p>
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: Woman Asks Why A Guy She Turned
 Down Didn't Try Harder, Gets The
 Perfect Response
 Like Bored Panda on FB
 Like 13M
 4 days ago by Rokas
 A guy invites a girl on a date, tries all of his best moves, but she says no. A guy has to move on,
 otherwise, it's harassment. Unless it isn't? Recently, a girl surprised the internet when she posted a
 question on Quora, asking why her date wasn't a mind reader.
 She wrote, "A guy asked me out today and I told him "no', but I wanted him to try harder. Why didn't
 he try again?" Naturally, a question like this deserves something more than a simple answer, an
 answer that's written in the same language. Luckily, Ron Rule typed a response the inquirer
 should've understood. Scroll down to check out what he wrote!
 Someone surprised Quora with a strange question
 A guy asked me out today and
 I told him "no", but I wanted
 him to try harder. Why didn't
 he try again?

 Luckily, this guy responded with an example the inquirer
 had to understand
 Ron Rule, CEO @ As Seen On TV L+
 Answered Feb 3
 A girl asked me what I wanted for lunch
 and I said "pizza", but I really wanted
 steak. Why did she bring me pizza?
 CS.
 Do you see how stupid that question sounds?
 That's how your question sounds.

 Amused by the exchange, people started sharing their
 own experiences
 Malovus 5 pts
 I had a girl dump me once, a month later she started
 sending me angry texts about how I didn't fight to
 keep her and she was only testing me
 FriendlyNeighborhoodUrologist 1,153 pts
 Same scenario happened to me a year back. She
 freaked out "what do you mean 'Ok' don't you want to
 keep me?"
 BobLeeSw4ger 20 pts
 I asked a girl out. Was declined. She told my brother i
 took it like a gentleman. Little flirt later guess who got
 that date.

 MrFnortner 336 pts
 My wife does that. Her: You want chicken or salman?
 Me: Salmon. Her: Well I need to cook the chicken
 before it spoils. Me: Well, why did...
 Icommentandpostmypets 4,516 pts
 Play stupid games, win nothing of value. Had a ex do
 this. Dated a month, asked me to just be friends. Said
 sure. Got mad I didn't fight.
 MakingYouReadThingsInSamElliottsVoice 15 pts
 "No means no, except when a guy is supposed to read
 minds and know it doesn't, but it may later mean no,
 unless the girl changes her mind."

 intaglioguy 9 pts
 "I wanted to play games. He didn't play along. I've de-
 cided to blame him so I can avoid personal responsibil-
 ity for my actions."
 TheGirlInTheFireplace 7 pts
 No, sh't like this pisses me off. My last gf of 8 years
 left me on the day I was going out to buy a ring for
 her because she 'didn't feel wanted enough'. It tore
 me apart inside but I learned to move on. Kinda. A
 few months later she texted me and told me the
 reason she left me was because she wanted me to
 chase after her. I WANTED TO SO BADLY but I
 thought "It's over" meant it was over. No one will
<p><a href="http://the-memeblades-chosen-one.tumblr.com/post/171072958064/celticpyro-eeveelutionsforequality" class="tumblr_blog">the-memeblades-chosen-one</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://celticpyro.tumblr.com/post/171069509284/eeveelutionsforequality-someoneintheshadow446" class="tumblr_blog">celticpyro</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/171057059312/someoneintheshadow446-apparently-this-isnt-a-bad" class="tumblr_blog">eeveelutionsforequality</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://someoneintheshadow446.tumblr.com/post/171056525840/apparently-this-isnt-a-bad-stereotype-from" class="tumblr_blog">someoneintheshadow446</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Apparently this isn’t a bad stereotype from sitcoms and that real women who do this exist. </p></blockquote>
<p>It’s not just women, I’ve dated women and guys who do this. I’m not the kind of person who “fights for” anybody - if they say that they’re leaving, of course I’ll ask why and talk it through with them, but I’m not going to buy a bouquet and appear at their door at 3am to try to get something from them that they said they didn’t want to give. The amount of times that I’ve heard “If you really loved me, you’d fight for me.” and I’ve been like “Well, if I really respected you and cared for you then I’d want you to be happy, rather than wanting you to do whatever it is that I want you to do.” and they come out with “So, what, you don’t want to be with me?” and I’m like “It’s not about what I want. If I wanted somebody’s watch and they didn’t want to give me the watch, I wouldn’t just take the watch. This is no different.” and then they push and push like “Just tell me that you want to be with me and I’ll stay.” and I’m like “I’m not going to do that, I want you to do what will make you happy.” and then I get called a heartless psychopath who never loved them and will never love anybody… so that’s fun.
</p>
<p>~ Vape </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Just…don’t do this. This is bad. Communicate clearly, some people will think you actually mean what you say and others are struggling with social skills enough. If you want to stay, stay. Don’t say ‘no’ and expect someone to not respect your answer. Heck, why would you WANT someone to not respect your boundaries?</p>
<p>Stuff like this ruins the legitimacy of ‘No means no’ and #MeToo. <br/></p>
</blockquote>

<p><i><a href="http://the-memeblades-chosen-one.tumblr.com/post/170364684149/maybe-heshe-is-just-playing-hard-to-get-ok">throw back to what I said about mind games/“playing hard to get”</a></i></p>
</blockquote>

<p>I knew someone in my church girls small group when I was a young teenager who bragged about how her mother purposely cut off all communication with her father (before they were together) in order to see how hard he would work to contact her. I distinctly remember saying I thought that was stupid and everyone else in the room shooting me down and saying it was romantic and great that she was “playing hard to get“ to “get him to pursue her“ and honestly screw that noise. Life‘s too short for head games and in this climate especially guys would be a whole lot less inclined to keep pursuing a woman who declined them for fear of being accused of something insidious. Just be honest, people.</p>
                
            

            
            
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    insidious: Jordan Gleason
 April 1 at 9:06pm
 This is a longer post, so bear with me...
 Today I had to explain to a 60 year old man why he was banned from the
 pub
 In January he made several sexist remarks about the female staff that
 were working. He told them to their faces that that he liked looking at their
 tits while they washed dishes, and their asses while they were pouring
 drinks. He was told to leave and not come back. He came back last
 month, and was told we wouldn't serve him. He came back yet again
 today, and when told he wouldn't be served demanded to talk to a
 manger
 l sat with him for a few minutes as he explained that what he said would
 have been okay 20 years ago, and that it was just some off colour
 remarks. He told me he had apologized, and that he guessed my servers
 were too sensitive. He then told me that if what he said was a problem
 then I should tell them not to wear low cut shirts, and that I should face the
 dish washing sink away from customers. But since he apologized, he
 should be allowed to drink in my establishment because he lives in the
 neighborhood and will bring in business
 l told him flatly that wasn't happening, and that what he said to those
 ladies was incredibly offensive. The simple fact that he couldn't
 understand that just because they were were working didn't mean they
 deserve his disrespectful language. That these ladies were part of my
 family, and were human beings that deserved respect. They aren't
 objects, and they certainly shouldn't have to wear different clothes
 because he can't be bothered with showing them any decency or respect.
 "But we're men and they're females. Is cleavage just not a thing
 anymore?"
 I told him yeah buddy, it's not, and I won't be changing my mind about
 having him served. He threatened bad publicity, I told him I didn't care
 and he left.
 I work in the service industry, and we get the sheer joy and pleasure of
 meeting and talking to so many great people in our city. I've met some of
 my best friends here behind the bar. I live for it man. Connecting people
 who haven't met, making sure people can relax from a shitty day, or
 celebrate a great one, or just to simply enjoy a few beers with friends. I've
 seen wedding proposals, birthday parties, political discussions, deep
 philosophical debates, neighborhood organization, the absolute works
 The best of humanity coming together and bonding. That's my JAM. It's
 one of the biggest reasons l get out of bed in the morning to come in to
 work day after day

 As absolutely insanely fun as that is, the dark side of this business is we
 run into some pretty horrible goblin people. Folks who think that just
 because we're serving, we don't deserve any basic decency or respect.
 I've been snapped at, mocked, threatened, and insulted about not having
 a real job. Anybody in this line of work gets used to a degree of it and
 develops a thicker skin. Here's the thing though, women in this field get
 infinitely more disgustingly treated. The sheer number of times they get
 groped, or harassed, or treated like objects would blow your mind. The
 worst of it is how normal their harassers think their behavior is. Every
 single lady in here handles it with grace and aplomb, andI applaud them
 for it. I've had their backs as we've bounced people out for that trash, but
 countless times they just deal with it before it even gets to me
 Sometimes the dudes get so worked up that they demand to see a
 manager, and I get called in to speak with them. Every single fucking time
 they attempt to appeal to me solely because I'm a man. They try to
 weasel in with me about how the women are asking for it. That women
 shouldn't dress that way if they don't want to be stared at. They attempt to
 explain it away as just "dudes being dudes." It's expected for men to stare
 at women's breasts and make jokes about how much they want to fuck
 them. Wink Wink. Of course you'll understand they think, because you
 also have a dick. What terrifies and enrages me is how every one of them
 thinks that this is normal behavior, but also that other men will agree with
 them
 Men, we often don't see the level of filth that our friends, sisters, and
 mothers go through every day. We hope to surround ourselves with
 people who would never treat a woman like that. We live in a safe little
 bubble. But the reality of this thing? It's an insidious disease that's
 happening every single day, several times a day and it turns my fucking
 stomach
 So why am I writing this? I want to acknowledge the struggle of every
 single woman who will read this. You deserve our respect and to be
 treated with decency I want to stand up and say, I'm fucking sick of this
 To every dude out there, we need to fucking combat this disease like its
 the god damned plague that it is. If one of your friends says something
 shitty about a woman, tell him to shut his fucking mouth. Don't just laugh it
 off or ignore it. We need to listen when our sisters talk about this, and not
 just blame it on some bad apples. Not just say "not all dudes do that" or
 "well no one I know would ever do that." Nah man. This is an endemic
 cultural problem. If we want to start taking our status as gentlemen
 seriously we need to do more than just avoiding being a sexist prick
 ourselves. We need to open our eyes and fight it everywhere we see it,
 because the only way this thing gets better is to start calling it out for what
 it is
 Edit: Sorry for so many edits. I keep finding typos. Writing in anger isn't so
 conducive to well typed responses
rcmclachlan:

This is what a male feminist looks like.

    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: Jordan Gleason
 April 1 at 9:06pm
 This is a longer post, so bear with me...
 Today I had to explain to a 60 year old man why he was banned from the
 pub
 In January he made several sexist remarks about the female staff that
 were working. He told them to their faces that that he liked looking at their
 tits while they washed dishes, and their asses while they were pouring
 drinks. He was told to leave and not come back. He came back last
 month, and was told we wouldn't serve him. He came back yet again
 today, and when told he wouldn't be served demanded to talk to a
 manger
 l sat with him for a few minutes as he explained that what he said would
 have been okay 20 years ago, and that it was just some off colour
 remarks. He told me he had apologized, and that he guessed my servers
 were too sensitive. He then told me that if what he said was a problem
 then I should tell them not to wear low cut shirts, and that I should face the
 dish washing sink away from customers. But since he apologized, he
 should be allowed to drink in my establishment because he lives in the
 neighborhood and will bring in business
 l told him flatly that wasn't happening, and that what he said to those
 ladies was incredibly offensive. The simple fact that he couldn't
 understand that just because they were were working didn't mean they
 deserve his disrespectful language. That these ladies were part of my
 family, and were human beings that deserved respect. They aren't
 objects, and they certainly shouldn't have to wear different clothes
 because he can't be bothered with showing them any decency or respect.
 "But we're men and they're females. Is cleavage just not a thing
 anymore?"
 I told him yeah buddy, it's not, and I won't be changing my mind about
 having him served. He threatened bad publicity, I told him I didn't care
 and he left.
 I work in the service industry, and we get the sheer joy and pleasure of
 meeting and talking to so many great people in our city. I've met some of
 my best friends here behind the bar. I live for it man. Connecting people
 who haven't met, making sure people can relax from a shitty day, or
 celebrate a great one, or just to simply enjoy a few beers with friends. I've
 seen wedding proposals, birthday parties, political discussions, deep
 philosophical debates, neighborhood organization, the absolute works
 The best of humanity coming together and bonding. That's my JAM. It's
 one of the biggest reasons l get out of bed in the morning to come in to
 work day after day

 As absolutely insanely fun as that is, the dark side of this business is we
 run into some pretty horrible goblin people. Folks who think that just
 because we're serving, we don't deserve any basic decency or respect.
 I've been snapped at, mocked, threatened, and insulted about not having
 a real job. Anybody in this line of work gets used to a degree of it and
 develops a thicker skin. Here's the thing though, women in this field get
 infinitely more disgustingly treated. The sheer number of times they get
 groped, or harassed, or treated like objects would blow your mind. The
 worst of it is how normal their harassers think their behavior is. Every
 single lady in here handles it with grace and aplomb, andI applaud them
 for it. I've had their backs as we've bounced people out for that trash, but
 countless times they just deal with it before it even gets to me
 Sometimes the dudes get so worked up that they demand to see a
 manager, and I get called in to speak with them. Every single fucking time
 they attempt to appeal to me solely because I'm a man. They try to
 weasel in with me about how the women are asking for it. That women
 shouldn't dress that way if they don't want to be stared at. They attempt to
 explain it away as just "dudes being dudes." It's expected for men to stare
 at women's breasts and make jokes about how much they want to fuck
 them. Wink Wink. Of course you'll understand they think, because you
 also have a dick. What terrifies and enrages me is how every one of them
 thinks that this is normal behavior, but also that other men will agree with
 them
 Men, we often don't see the level of filth that our friends, sisters, and
 mothers go through every day. We hope to surround ourselves with
 people who would never treat a woman like that. We live in a safe little
 bubble. But the reality of this thing? It's an insidious disease that's
 happening every single day, several times a day and it turns my fucking
 stomach
 So why am I writing this? I want to acknowledge the struggle of every
 single woman who will read this. You deserve our respect and to be
 treated with decency I want to stand up and say, I'm fucking sick of this
 To every dude out there, we need to fucking combat this disease like its
 the god damned plague that it is. If one of your friends says something
 shitty about a woman, tell him to shut his fucking mouth. Don't just laugh it
 off or ignore it. We need to listen when our sisters talk about this, and not
 just blame it on some bad apples. Not just say "not all dudes do that" or
 "well no one I know would ever do that." Nah man. This is an endemic
 cultural problem. If we want to start taking our status as gentlemen
 seriously we need to do more than just avoiding being a sexist prick
 ourselves. We need to open our eyes and fight it everywhere we see it,
 because the only way this thing gets better is to start calling it out for what
 it is
 Edit: Sorry for so many edits. I keep finding typos. Writing in anger isn't so
 conducive to well typed responses
rcmclachlan:

This is what a male feminist looks like.

                
            

            
            
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    insidious: AT&T
 2:44 AM
 4390
 lockstrom
 lockstrom
 sotriggeredrightnow
 Solomon Georgio
 @solomongeorgio
 You think getting friend zoned is bad,
 imagine your creepy male friend
 thinking you owe them sex
 9/1/16, 1:20 PM from Los Angeles, CA
 daddyfuckedme
 THANK YOU
 lockstrom
 Owe them? No. It is pure hope. It is a flame, that
 you keep alive by every flick of the hair, every
 quirky smile meant for him, every brush of the
 hand, ever butt on his body moment. You are
 using him, killing him slowly, by telling him you
 accept him, but never accepting him completely.
 Why are you his friend?
 Source: ithelpstodream
iwilleatyourenglish:

sassy-gay-justice:

fandomsandfeminism:

arielenhasarrived:

jasper-rolls:

the-cringe-channel:
Kill me


#‘killing him slowly’ how do you kill him faster

reblog to kill him faster, like to kill him slowly


Look, i know we throw around the words “toxic masculinity ” and “toxic heteronomativity” a lot, but THIS.  
If your ideas of gender and relationships and women renders you of being incapable of normal friendships with women because their pressence is “killing you” …that’s suuuuper unhealthy.

I’m seriously concerned for any woman in this dude’s life.

woman: *shakes hair out of her face*
man: BE GONE YE HARLOT WITH YOUR INSIDIOUS TEMPTATIONS 
(also, “why are you his friend” fucking blows my mind because this implies that friends are automatically people that you fuck)

    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: AT&T
 2:44 AM
 4390
 lockstrom
 lockstrom
 sotriggeredrightnow
 Solomon Georgio
 @solomongeorgio
 You think getting friend zoned is bad,
 imagine your creepy male friend
 thinking you owe them sex
 9/1/16, 1:20 PM from Los Angeles, CA
 daddyfuckedme
 THANK YOU
 lockstrom
 Owe them? No. It is pure hope. It is a flame, that
 you keep alive by every flick of the hair, every
 quirky smile meant for him, every brush of the
 hand, ever butt on his body moment. You are
 using him, killing him slowly, by telling him you
 accept him, but never accepting him completely.
 Why are you his friend?
 Source: ithelpstodream
iwilleatyourenglish:

sassy-gay-justice:

fandomsandfeminism:

arielenhasarrived:

jasper-rolls:

the-cringe-channel:
Kill me


#‘killing him slowly’ how do you kill him faster

reblog to kill him faster, like to kill him slowly


Look, i know we throw around the words “toxic masculinity ” and “toxic heteronomativity” a lot, but THIS.  
If your ideas of gender and relationships and women renders you of being incapable of normal friendships with women because their pressence is “killing you” …that’s suuuuper unhealthy.

I’m seriously concerned for any woman in this dude’s life.

woman: *shakes hair out of her face*
man: BE GONE YE HARLOT WITH YOUR INSIDIOUS TEMPTATIONS 
(also, “why are you his friend” fucking blows my mind because this implies that friends are automatically people that you fuck)

                
            

            
            
iwilleatyourenglish:

sassy-gay-justice:

fandomsandfeminism:

arielenhasarrived:

jasper-rolls:

the-cringe-channel:
Kill me


#‘killing...

            
            
        

    



        

        
        

            






        

        
        

            






        

        
        

            






        

        
        

            






        

        
        

            






        

        
        

            







    insidious: LIVE Local Time
 IMPACT
 ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION
 30m more women use modern forms in the last 5 years
 BBC WORLD NEWS EO OF A WHALE PLAYING WITH DOLPHINS
 BUSINESS
<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/163069330649/actual-african-woman-most-african-women-do-not" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>Actual African woman: “Most African women do not want contraception or abortions. It’s mostly western culture trying to tell us that’s what we should want.”<br/>
British newscaster: “Shut up and let me tell you what African women want!”</p></blockquote>

<p>Can we just talk about how this interview speaks to the insidious racist nature of so many in the contraception and &ldquo;pro-choice&rdquo; camp? It doesn&rsquo;t represent everybody, but am I the only one who finds it pretty fucking disturbing that people from these Western, mostly white countries are going over to Africa and telling impoverished women that what they really need is to have fewer babies? The women who are devastated after getting contraception because nobody told them how much it could fuck their bodies up? Who cares? As long as there&rsquo;s fewer African babies being born we&rsquo;ve done our job! What&rsquo;s that? They&rsquo;re saying they want food and education more than they want contraception? Fuck &lsquo;em. What they really need is IUDs.</p>
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: LIVE Local Time
 IMPACT
 ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION
 30m more women use modern forms in the last 5 years
 BBC WORLD NEWS EO OF A WHALE PLAYING WITH DOLPHINS
 BUSINESS
<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/163069330649/actual-african-woman-most-african-women-do-not" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>Actual African woman: “Most African women do not want contraception or abortions. It’s mostly western culture trying to tell us that’s what we should want.”<br/>
British newscaster: “Shut up and let me tell you what African women want!”</p></blockquote>

<p>Can we just talk about how this interview speaks to the insidious racist nature of so many in the contraception and &ldquo;pro-choice&rdquo; camp? It doesn&rsquo;t represent everybody, but am I the only one who finds it pretty fucking disturbing that people from these Western, mostly white countries are going over to Africa and telling impoverished women that what they really need is to have fewer babies? The women who are devastated after getting contraception because nobody told them how much it could fuck their bodies up? Who cares? As long as there&rsquo;s fewer African babies being born we&rsquo;ve done our job! What&rsquo;s that? They&rsquo;re saying they want food and education more than they want contraception? Fuck &lsquo;em. What they really need is IUDs.</p>
                
            

            
            
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    insidious: Info
 Film-film horror.
 h Mitos
 yang akan tayang
 di tahun 2017
1. IT . Film ini menyoroti sosok mengerikan yang senang membunuh anak-anak, yang tentu dirasuki oleh setan. Sosok ini digambarkan menggunakan kostum bafut. Film ini sepertinya akan mengantarkan kengerian melalui kenangan yang kelam, fobia dan ketakutan terbesar manusia, serta keberadaan sosok mengerikan di sebuah kota kecil yang minim penduduk. . 2. Friday the 13th . Jason Voorhees merupakan sosok yang mengerikan karena topengnya yang aneh dan keinginannya untuk membunuh begitu saja tanpa pandang bulu. Setelah sempat dikabarkan film terbarunya bakal rilis pada 2016, Friday The 13th akhirnya diundur sampai tahun ini. Franchise Friday The 13thudah bertahan selama 35 tahun sejak dirilis pada 1980. Sudah ada 12 film dalam franchise-nya, termasuk film crossover dengan Freddy Krueger, Freddy vs. Jason, pada 2003. . 3. Personal shopper . Personal Shopper bukan film horor biasa. Menampilkan Kristen Stewart sebagai Maureen, seorang personal shopper untuk artis di Paris, film ini mencampurkan drama dan kengerian dalam satu film. Sebagai seorang cenayang “sensitif” yang bisa berhubungan sama makhluk astral, Maureen bisa berhubungan dengan kakaknya yang sudah meninggal. Tetapi, film ini tidak hanya fokus dengan hal-hal supranatural, melainkan juga menyoroti kehidupan personal shopper yang sebenarnya cukup aneh. Aneh karena dimana kita disuruh membelikan baju untuk orang lain dan baju-baju itu sama sekali enggak murah. . 4. Annabelle 2 . Annabelle adalah boneka yang populer setelah muncul di The Conjuring. Teaser-nya memang belum menunjukkan banyak hal terkait jalan ceritanya. Namun, sudah dipastikan bahwa film ini bakal mundur jauh, tepatnya ke awal pembuatan Annabelle. Sepertinya film ini bakal menjawab pertanyaan mengenai gimana caranya Annabelle bisa jadi boneka paling mengerikan di The Conjuring. . 5. Insidious: chapter 4 . Chapter ke-4 dari film fenomenal ini akan tayang 20 Oktober 2017 ini. Leigh Whannel yang merupakan penulis naskahnya, mengatakan bahwa dia mau mengeksplorasi cerita berikutnya ke masa sebelum film pertama. Khususnya, petualangan Elise saat dia kembali mendapatkan kekuatan supernaturalnya.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: Info
 Film-film horror.
 h Mitos
 yang akan tayang
 di tahun 2017
1. IT . Film ini menyoroti sosok mengerikan yang senang membunuh anak-anak, yang tentu dirasuki oleh setan. Sosok ini digambarkan menggunakan kostum bafut. Film ini sepertinya akan mengantarkan kengerian melalui kenangan yang kelam, fobia dan ketakutan terbesar manusia, serta keberadaan sosok mengerikan di sebuah kota kecil yang minim penduduk. . 2. Friday the 13th . Jason Voorhees merupakan sosok yang mengerikan karena topengnya yang aneh dan keinginannya untuk membunuh begitu saja tanpa pandang bulu. Setelah sempat dikabarkan film terbarunya bakal rilis pada 2016, Friday The 13th akhirnya diundur sampai tahun ini. Franchise Friday The 13thudah bertahan selama 35 tahun sejak dirilis pada 1980. Sudah ada 12 film dalam franchise-nya, termasuk film crossover dengan Freddy Krueger, Freddy vs. Jason, pada 2003. . 3. Personal shopper . Personal Shopper bukan film horor biasa. Menampilkan Kristen Stewart sebagai Maureen, seorang personal shopper untuk artis di Paris, film ini mencampurkan drama dan kengerian dalam satu film. Sebagai seorang cenayang “sensitif” yang bisa berhubungan sama makhluk astral, Maureen bisa berhubungan dengan kakaknya yang sudah meninggal. Tetapi, film ini tidak hanya fokus dengan hal-hal supranatural, melainkan juga menyoroti kehidupan personal shopper yang sebenarnya cukup aneh. Aneh karena dimana kita disuruh membelikan baju untuk orang lain dan baju-baju itu sama sekali enggak murah. . 4. Annabelle 2 . Annabelle adalah boneka yang populer setelah muncul di The Conjuring. Teaser-nya memang belum menunjukkan banyak hal terkait jalan ceritanya. Namun, sudah dipastikan bahwa film ini bakal mundur jauh, tepatnya ke awal pembuatan Annabelle. Sepertinya film ini bakal menjawab pertanyaan mengenai gimana caranya Annabelle bisa jadi boneka paling mengerikan di The Conjuring. . 5. Insidious: chapter 4 . Chapter ke-4 dari film fenomenal ini akan tayang 20 Oktober 2017 ini. Leigh Whannel yang merupakan penulis naskahnya, mengatakan bahwa dia mau mengeksplorasi cerita berikutnya ke masa sebelum film pertama. Khususnya, petualangan Elise saat dia kembali mendapatkan kekuatan supernaturalnya.
                
            

            
            
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    insidious: AMBITION
 CIRCLE
 DOUBT KILLS MORE
 DREAMS THAN
 FAILURE EVER WILL
Doubt is something that can kill dreams far more effectively than failure. When you doubt you start to believe that your dreams are impossible to achieve, and this state of mind is both negative and damaging. When you fail this may motivate you to try harder so that you succeed the next time you attempt to reach your dreams. If you doubt yourself and your abilities then the battle is already lost and your dreams will always be out of reach. Doubt can be like an invasive parasite, slowly eating away at your confidence and eroding your determination. Instead of doubting yourself look at all the impossible tasks that men and women have achieved over the years and use this as motivation to push yourself even further in order to achieve your dreams and reach your goals. When you feel doubt then you allow yourself to become sidetracked from your objectives. This can cause you to turn down the wrong path, or even to give up entirely. Failure can make you stronger because each time you try and fail you may get further towards your goals, and eventually you will usually succeed at reaching the prize you are working towards. Doubt can be insidious, starting out as a small whisper in the back of your mind and growing larger over time. Eventually you may doubt your ability to succeed and this can cause you to give up and stop trying to fulfill your dreams. At least when you fail you usually learn valuable lessons in the process. When you doubt you learn nothing and lose everything. - |📸@bangbangmotivation|
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                insidious: AMBITION
 CIRCLE
 DOUBT KILLS MORE
 DREAMS THAN
 FAILURE EVER WILL
Doubt is something that can kill dreams far more effectively than failure. When you doubt you start to believe that your dreams are impossible to achieve, and this state of mind is both negative and damaging. When you fail this may motivate you to try harder so that you succeed the next time you attempt to reach your dreams. If you doubt yourself and your abilities then the battle is already lost and your dreams will always be out of reach. Doubt can be like an invasive parasite, slowly eating away at your confidence and eroding your determination. Instead of doubting yourself look at all the impossible tasks that men and women have achieved over the years and use this as motivation to push yourself even further in order to achieve your dreams and reach your goals. When you feel doubt then you allow yourself to become sidetracked from your objectives. This can cause you to turn down the wrong path, or even to give up entirely. Failure can make you stronger because each time you try and fail you may get further towards your goals, and eventually you will usually succeed at reaching the prize you are working towards. Doubt can be insidious, starting out as a small whisper in the back of your mind and growing larger over time. Eventually you may doubt your ability to succeed and this can cause you to give up and stop trying to fulfill your dreams. At least when you fail you usually learn valuable lessons in the process. When you doubt you learn nothing and lose everything. - |📸@bangbangmotivation|
                
            

            
            
Doubt is something that can kill dreams far more effectively than failure. When you doubt you start to believe that your dreams are impos...