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    Apparently, Dude, and Fucking: wha!?
 Sl
 BAPU
 BAPTIST
 CHUR(H
 SUS
 DISGUST
 MyCHILD

 Dortyouatti?
 SaSin!God
 condemns W
 all!
 BRIAN
 heed to
 have a
 talk
 0

 CHRISTIANS
 CELEBRATE TH
 ISLAMIC TEMPUE
 I didnt
 die ona
 Cross for
 this BS
 RADICAL

 righte
 homoSexvality
 ar the last
 2.000 yearsold.
prismatic-bell:
the-spoopy-ghost-of-raejin99:


prismatic-bell:


broken-bits-of-dreams:

prismatic-bell:


aiko-mori-hates-pedos:

artbymoga:
Throwback to all these Jesus comics I drew in 2012…

Good post OP


Good post, OP, and if you ever decide to do another may I please suggest “NOT IN HEBREW IT DOESN’T” as a punchline? So much of the Old Testament is HORRIFICALLY translated from the Tanakh, it drives me batty.


WAIT WAIT WHAT DOES IT SAY?????? I NEED TO LIKE,, DESTROY MI MUM FOR BEING REALLY HOMOPHOBIC

Okay, so, strictly speaking, the infamous Leviticus 18:22 does say “forbidden.” Here’s the thing: 

1) The word translated as “forbidden” is “toevah.” While that translation isn’t … wrong, it’s sort of like saying “McMansion” means “really big house.” There are a lot of connotations in that word. The specific issue with toevah is that we … sort of … don’t know anymore exactly what it meant. Based on context, it seems likely that the word referred to something ritually forbidden. This part of Torah was written not only as a guide for future generations, but also to say “so, look around, see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT.“ Thus, if we interpret “toevah” to mean something that’s forbidden to do as a ritual before G-d, then the verse says nothing whatsoever about Adam and Steve and their two kids and their dog–it’s saying you shouldn’t have sex with another man in the Temple as a sacrifice.

2) Following the same “this is ritually forbidden” logic of toevah, this verse may also be interpreted as “don’t do sex magic,” which was a thing in. Like. A lot of fucking cultures at the time.

3) Hebrew is a highly gendered language, and the grammatical gender in this verse is really really weird. One of the “men” in this verse is given female grammar. Why? Who fucking knows, man, this isn’t the only grammatical oddity in Torah. (There are also places where G-d is referred to as plural, and also as female.) One suggestion is that this is a way of creating a diminutive–that is, that the verse should be read as “a man should not lie with a boy.” Now, it’s worth noting that modern secular scholarship has concluded the written Torah was written down around the 6th century BCE, and most non-Orthodox Jewish scholars are like “yeah, all things considered, that sounds pretty legit.” 

Do you know what else was happening around the 6th century BCE? What laypeople tend to mean when they say “ancient Greece” was happening. 

Do you know what happened a lot in that time period in Greece? Dudes forming relationships with younger boys, like ages 10-15, and using them for sex in exchange for financial gifts, mentorship, etc. While we don’t know just how young some of these younger boys may have been, we do know some were prepubescent. In light of this, and also something I mentioned under the first point–”see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT,” if this verse is interpreted to say “a man should not lie with a boy,” then it’s pretty clearly “my dudes, my fellows, my lads, don’t be fucking pedophiles.” 

4) Because of the grammar I mentioned in #3, it’s also possible that “should not lie with a man as with a woman” is actually referring to a place, not an abstract personhood: a man shouldn’t have sex with another man in a woman’s bed. In the time period, a woman’s bed was sort of like–that was her place, her safe sanctuary. It was also a ritually holy place where babies were made. By having sex in her bed, you’re violating her safe space (and also introducing a man who may not be a male relative, thus forcing her into breaking the laws of modesty). If this verse is read this way, then it should be taken to mean “don’t sexually violate a woman’s safety and modesty.”5) And as an offshoot of #4, this may be a second verse relating to infidelity. Which woman’s bed is any random dude in 600 BCE most likely to have access to? His wife’s. But laws were administered differently based on whether the person they pertained to was slave or free, male or female, and so on–thus, a man committing adultery with a woman would be treated differently than man committing adultery with a man (especially because the latter would carry no chance of an illegitimate pregnancy).


So you’ll note, there are a lot of ways to read this verse, and only a one-to-one translation with no cultural awareness produces “being gay is wrong, all of the time”.(You’ll also notice the word “abomination” is nowhere to be found. That’s like … a straight-up fiction created for who only knows what reason.)


Apparently tumblr mobile doesn’t want to show @prismatic-bell ’s long and in-depth essay, so here’s the screenshots, because it still shows up on mobile browsers:








Much appreciated.

    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                Apparently, Dude, and Fucking: wha!?
 Sl
 BAPU
 BAPTIST
 CHUR(H
 SUS
 DISGUST
 MyCHILD

 Dortyouatti?
 SaSin!God
 condemns W
 all!
 BRIAN
 heed to
 have a
 talk
 0

 CHRISTIANS
 CELEBRATE TH
 ISLAMIC TEMPUE
 I didnt
 die ona
 Cross for
 this BS
 RADICAL

 righte
 homoSexvality
 ar the last
 2.000 yearsold.
prismatic-bell:
the-spoopy-ghost-of-raejin99:


prismatic-bell:


broken-bits-of-dreams:

prismatic-bell:


aiko-mori-hates-pedos:

artbymoga:
Throwback to all these Jesus comics I drew in 2012…

Good post OP


Good post, OP, and if you ever decide to do another may I please suggest “NOT IN HEBREW IT DOESN’T” as a punchline? So much of the Old Testament is HORRIFICALLY translated from the Tanakh, it drives me batty.


WAIT WAIT WHAT DOES IT SAY?????? I NEED TO LIKE,, DESTROY MI MUM FOR BEING REALLY HOMOPHOBIC

Okay, so, strictly speaking, the infamous Leviticus 18:22 does say “forbidden.” Here’s the thing: 

1) The word translated as “forbidden” is “toevah.” While that translation isn’t … wrong, it’s sort of like saying “McMansion” means “really big house.” There are a lot of connotations in that word. The specific issue with toevah is that we … sort of … don’t know anymore exactly what it meant. Based on context, it seems likely that the word referred to something ritually forbidden. This part of Torah was written not only as a guide for future generations, but also to say “so, look around, see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT.“ Thus, if we interpret “toevah” to mean something that’s forbidden to do as a ritual before G-d, then the verse says nothing whatsoever about Adam and Steve and their two kids and their dog–it’s saying you shouldn’t have sex with another man in the Temple as a sacrifice.

2) Following the same “this is ritually forbidden” logic of toevah, this verse may also be interpreted as “don’t do sex magic,” which was a thing in. Like. A lot of fucking cultures at the time.

3) Hebrew is a highly gendered language, and the grammatical gender in this verse is really really weird. One of the “men” in this verse is given female grammar. Why? Who fucking knows, man, this isn’t the only grammatical oddity in Torah. (There are also places where G-d is referred to as plural, and also as female.) One suggestion is that this is a way of creating a diminutive–that is, that the verse should be read as “a man should not lie with a boy.” Now, it’s worth noting that modern secular scholarship has concluded the written Torah was written down around the 6th century BCE, and most non-Orthodox Jewish scholars are like “yeah, all things considered, that sounds pretty legit.” 

Do you know what else was happening around the 6th century BCE? What laypeople tend to mean when they say “ancient Greece” was happening. 

Do you know what happened a lot in that time period in Greece? Dudes forming relationships with younger boys, like ages 10-15, and using them for sex in exchange for financial gifts, mentorship, etc. While we don’t know just how young some of these younger boys may have been, we do know some were prepubescent. In light of this, and also something I mentioned under the first point–”see your neighbors? DON’T DO THAT,” if this verse is interpreted to say “a man should not lie with a boy,” then it’s pretty clearly “my dudes, my fellows, my lads, don’t be fucking pedophiles.” 

4) Because of the grammar I mentioned in #3, it’s also possible that “should not lie with a man as with a woman” is actually referring to a place, not an abstract personhood: a man shouldn’t have sex with another man in a woman’s bed. In the time period, a woman’s bed was sort of like–that was her place, her safe sanctuary. It was also a ritually holy place where babies were made. By having sex in her bed, you’re violating her safe space (and also introducing a man who may not be a male relative, thus forcing her into breaking the laws of modesty). If this verse is read this way, then it should be taken to mean “don’t sexually violate a woman’s safety and modesty.”5) And as an offshoot of #4, this may be a second verse relating to infidelity. Which woman’s bed is any random dude in 600 BCE most likely to have access to? His wife’s. But laws were administered differently based on whether the person they pertained to was slave or free, male or female, and so on–thus, a man committing adultery with a woman would be treated differently than man committing adultery with a man (especially because the latter would carry no chance of an illegitimate pregnancy).


So you’ll note, there are a lot of ways to read this verse, and only a one-to-one translation with no cultural awareness produces “being gay is wrong, all of the time”.(You’ll also notice the word “abomination” is nowhere to be found. That’s like … a straight-up fiction created for who only knows what reason.)


Apparently tumblr mobile doesn’t want to show @prismatic-bell ’s long and in-depth essay, so here’s the screenshots, because it still shows up on mobile browsers:








Much appreciated.

                
            

            
            
prismatic-bell:
the-spoopy-ghost-of-raejin99:


prismatic-bell:


broken-bits-of-dreams:

prismatic-bell:


aiko-mori-hates-pedos:

artbymog...

            
            
        

    



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            



        

            
        
        

            




    Advice, Ass, and Bad: embyrr922
 pyrrhiccomedy
 ifshehadwings
 ovaadosedonconfidenc
 Intuition is real. Vibes are real. Energy doesn't lie. Tune in
 This is actually called thin slicing. Your brain recognizes patterns
 from very small "slices" of information by comparing them to things
 you have experienced betore. This all happens very quickly ona
 subconscious level without our conscious mind being involved. So
 intuition is actually really fast pattern recognition, and it can be very
 accurate. So yeah, if you have a gut feeling that a person or
 situation is not good, get the hell out. Your brain knows what's up
 When I was young - because l've always been a big skeptical pain in the
 ass I thought that when people were talking about
 interpersonal "energy," they were on some Gay Ass Shit.
 Years later, after spending hundreds of hours reading studies about
 intuition and neuroscience and pattern recognition and the processing
 power of the subconscious mind, I realized that that kind of talk - "she
 has such good energy," "you need to read the energy of the room," "l just
 got some really bad energy off of that guy - is a convenient shorthand for
 the lightning-rast, weirdly-accurate, real-as-fuck subconscious processing
 of the probability of positive or negative social outcomes likely to result
 from hundreds or thousands of variables. That "energy" isn't a tangible
 thing floating around in the air. It's your brain updating you constantly
 with information about your situation. Listen to it. Especially if it's telling
 you to be nervous or scared. Your brain is very good at recognizing
 danger. Let the enormous processing power of your subconscious mind
 protect you. It's better at spotting patterns than you are
 "Bad energy" isn't some hippie shit. It's your brain setting off a claxon
 because it knows something's not right.
 Thin slicing is wonderfully helpful, but be aware that if it's doing its pattern
 recognition from bad sources, you need to actively override it. We're raised in
 a racist society, inundated with racist media, and bombarded with subtly (or
 unsubtly) racist advice. Thin slicing can save your life, but it's also the cause
 behind the unconscious elements of racism (and
 misogynylableism/antisemitism/islamophobia/etc.) that we all suffer from
 Trust your instincts, but if your instincts tell you something that seems
 prejudicial, double check their work
Trust your gut. Unless your gut is a dumbass.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                Advice, Ass, and Bad: embyrr922
 pyrrhiccomedy
 ifshehadwings
 ovaadosedonconfidenc
 Intuition is real. Vibes are real. Energy doesn't lie. Tune in
 This is actually called thin slicing. Your brain recognizes patterns
 from very small "slices" of information by comparing them to things
 you have experienced betore. This all happens very quickly ona
 subconscious level without our conscious mind being involved. So
 intuition is actually really fast pattern recognition, and it can be very
 accurate. So yeah, if you have a gut feeling that a person or
 situation is not good, get the hell out. Your brain knows what's up
 When I was young - because l've always been a big skeptical pain in the
 ass I thought that when people were talking about
 interpersonal "energy," they were on some Gay Ass Shit.
 Years later, after spending hundreds of hours reading studies about
 intuition and neuroscience and pattern recognition and the processing
 power of the subconscious mind, I realized that that kind of talk - "she
 has such good energy," "you need to read the energy of the room," "l just
 got some really bad energy off of that guy - is a convenient shorthand for
 the lightning-rast, weirdly-accurate, real-as-fuck subconscious processing
 of the probability of positive or negative social outcomes likely to result
 from hundreds or thousands of variables. That "energy" isn't a tangible
 thing floating around in the air. It's your brain updating you constantly
 with information about your situation. Listen to it. Especially if it's telling
 you to be nervous or scared. Your brain is very good at recognizing
 danger. Let the enormous processing power of your subconscious mind
 protect you. It's better at spotting patterns than you are
 "Bad energy" isn't some hippie shit. It's your brain setting off a claxon
 because it knows something's not right.
 Thin slicing is wonderfully helpful, but be aware that if it's doing its pattern
 recognition from bad sources, you need to actively override it. We're raised in
 a racist society, inundated with racist media, and bombarded with subtly (or
 unsubtly) racist advice. Thin slicing can save your life, but it's also the cause
 behind the unconscious elements of racism (and
 misogynylableism/antisemitism/islamophobia/etc.) that we all suffer from
 Trust your instincts, but if your instincts tell you something that seems
 prejudicial, double check their work
Trust your gut. Unless your gut is a dumbass.
                
            

            
            
Trust your gut. Unless your gut is a dumbass.