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Books, God, and Internet: Dear Lord, Close any door that you think should be closed even if I think it should be open. Don't let my comfort stop you God. Father, I come to You today, bowing in my heart, asking for protection from the evil one. Lord, we are assailed moment by moment with images on television, the internet, books and newspapers that leave us vulnerable to sin of every kind. Surround us with Your divine hedge of protection. Encompass us round about with Your strength and Your might. Let all who take refuge in You be glad, let them ever sing for joy. And may You shelter us, that those who love Your name may exult in You. For it is You who blesses the righteous man, O LORD, You surround him favor as with a shield. (Psalm 5:11-12) Lord, I ask that You protect our minds. Father, the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace. (Romans 8:6) O God, set our minds on You. Let us not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds that we may prove what Your will is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. (Romans 12:2) Help us by the power of Your Spirit to think on whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything is worthy of praise, let our minds dwell on these things. (Philippians 4:8) Lord, close any door that’s meant to be shut. In Jesus’ name I pray, AMEN god spiritual protection love amen Jesus relationships
Books, God, and Internet: Dear Lord, Close any door that you
 think should be closed even if I think it
 should be open. Don't let my comfort
 stop you God.
Father, I come to You today, bowing in my heart, asking for protection from the evil one. Lord, we are assailed moment by moment with images on television, the internet, books and newspapers that leave us vulnerable to sin of every kind. Surround us with Your divine hedge of protection. Encompass us round about with Your strength and Your might. Let all who take refuge in You be glad, let them ever sing for joy. And may You shelter us, that those who love Your name may exult in You. For it is You who blesses the righteous man, O LORD, You surround him favor as with a shield. (Psalm 5:11-12) Lord, I ask that You protect our minds. Father, the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace. (Romans 8:6) O God, set our minds on You. Let us not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds that we may prove what Your will is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. (Romans 12:2) Help us by the power of Your Spirit to think on whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything is worthy of praise, let our minds dwell on these things. (Philippians 4:8) Lord, close any door that’s meant to be shut. In Jesus’ name I pray, AMEN god spiritual protection love amen Jesus relationships

Father, I come to You today, bowing in my heart, asking for protection from the evil one. Lord, we are assailed moment by moment with images...

Ass, Head, and Love: <p><a href="http://celticpyro.tumblr.com/post/175278281854/redbloodedamerica-skepticphantom-chuckmanx" class="tumblr_blog">celticpyro</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://redbloodedamerica.tumblr.com/post/175278206032/skepticphantom-chuckmanx-tatertitans" class="tumblr_blog">redbloodedamerica</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="https://skepticphantom.tumblr.com/post/175263174149/chuckmanx-tatertitans-lgbtlaughs-a-bakery" class="tumblr_blog">skepticphantom</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://chuckmanx.tumblr.com/post/166060039899/tatertitans-lgbtlaughs-a-bakery-is-facing" class="tumblr_blog">chuckmanx</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://tatertitans.tumblr.com/post/109117721187/lgbtlaughs-a-bakery-is-facing-legal">tatertitans</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://lgbtlaughs.tumblr.com/post/109100071760/a-bakery-is-facing-legal-action-because-it-refused">lgbtlaughs</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/22/bakery-accused-of-religious-discrimination-for-refusing-to-write-anti-gay-message-on-cake-5032529/"><strong>A bakery is facing legal action because it refused to write anti-gay comments on a cake for a customer</strong></a></p> <p>The customer bringing the claim against Azucar Bakery in Denver, Colorado, says he was the victim of ‘religious discrimination’ because they wouldn’t adorn cakes with the words ‘God hates gays’, and draw a picture of two men holding hands with a red cross above it.</p> <p>Owner Marjorie Silva called the requests of Bill Jack ‘discriminatory and hateful’ and refused to decorate the cakes, saying: ‘We never refuse service. We did feel that it was not right for us to write hateful words or pictures against human beings.’</p> <p>She did, however, offer to make Mr Jack the cakes and sell him some icing so her could decorate them himself.</p> <p>Mr Jack was not satisfied with this response, telling a local news station he was being ‘discriminated against by the bakery based on my creed’.</p> <p>He has filed a complaint with the Department of Regulatory Agencies, which have now placed the bakery under investigation, and could refer the complaint to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission if they feel that Mr Jack was being discriminated against.</p> <p>Mr Jack is the head of the Worldview Academy, an organisation that exists to help people ‘think and live in accord with a Biblical worldview’.</p> <p>Since the incident Ms Silva has received praise and support from people throughout the world who have contacted her via email.</p> </blockquote> <p>Guys please spread this, I live here and I love this cake shop so much and would hate to see it get closed for something like this. The cakes there are absolutely phenomenal, and they even have gay and lesbian wedding cake toppers, and is the only cake store that has those in all of Denver, Golden, and Lakewood. Please don’t let this cake shop close.</p> </blockquote> <p>Friendly Christian Reminder:<br/></p> <p>Saying “God Hates” is a violation of most of the New Testament. See also John 3:16-17, for starters. Numerous mentions of “God is love”.</p> <p>Saying that you are without sin is a bold-faced lie; see Psalm 130 and Romans 3:20.</p> <p>Passing judgement onto another person is a no-no; see Mathew 7:1-5.</p> <p>Loving thy neighbor is one of the two most important commandments; Mark 12:31.</p> <p>And that your ‘neighbor’ isn’t always another Christian; see Luke 10:25-37.</p> <p><br/></p> <p>In short, stop using my religion to justify you being an ass-hat, Ass-hat.</p> </blockquote> <p style="">Guess we come full circle now. <br/></p> <p>think <a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mhaiNKeZ_RViwScgQtvf7CQ">@redbloodedamerica</a> gave a scenario like this as a counter example while back.<br/></p> </blockquote> <p>I can’t believe this <a href="https://mediaassets.thedenverchannel.com/document/2015/04/23/Jack_Williams_V_Azucar_Bakery_17228465_ver1.0.pdf">actually happened</a>.  This bigot should bake that cake.  How dare she discriminate…</p> </blockquote> <p>No, she shouldn’t. She should have the right to refuse service. And so should anyone who doesn’t want to bake a gay wedding cake. <br/></p></blockquote> <p>Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.</p>
Ass, Head, and Love: <p><a href="http://celticpyro.tumblr.com/post/175278281854/redbloodedamerica-skepticphantom-chuckmanx" class="tumblr_blog">celticpyro</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://redbloodedamerica.tumblr.com/post/175278206032/skepticphantom-chuckmanx-tatertitans" class="tumblr_blog">redbloodedamerica</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://skepticphantom.tumblr.com/post/175263174149/chuckmanx-tatertitans-lgbtlaughs-a-bakery" class="tumblr_blog">skepticphantom</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://chuckmanx.tumblr.com/post/166060039899/tatertitans-lgbtlaughs-a-bakery-is-facing" class="tumblr_blog">chuckmanx</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://tatertitans.tumblr.com/post/109117721187/lgbtlaughs-a-bakery-is-facing-legal">tatertitans</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://lgbtlaughs.tumblr.com/post/109100071760/a-bakery-is-facing-legal-action-because-it-refused">lgbtlaughs</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/22/bakery-accused-of-religious-discrimination-for-refusing-to-write-anti-gay-message-on-cake-5032529/"><strong>A bakery is facing legal action because it refused to write anti-gay comments on a cake for a customer</strong></a></p>
<p>The customer bringing the claim against Azucar Bakery in Denver, Colorado, says he was the victim of ‘religious discrimination’ because they wouldn’t adorn cakes with the words ‘God hates gays’, and draw a picture of two men holding hands with a red cross above it.</p>
<p>Owner Marjorie Silva called the requests of Bill Jack ‘discriminatory and hateful’ and refused to decorate the cakes, saying: ‘We never refuse service. We did feel that it was not right for us to write hateful words or pictures against human beings.’</p>
<p>She did, however, offer to make Mr Jack the cakes and sell him some icing so her could decorate them himself.</p>
<p>Mr Jack was not satisfied with this response, telling a local news station he was being ‘discriminated against by the bakery based on my creed’.</p>
<p>He has filed a complaint with the Department of Regulatory Agencies, which have now placed the bakery under investigation, and could refer the complaint to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission if they feel that Mr Jack was being discriminated against.</p>
<p>Mr Jack is the head of the Worldview Academy, an organisation that exists to help people ‘think and live in accord with a Biblical worldview’.</p>
<p>Since the incident Ms Silva has received praise and support from people throughout the world who have contacted her via email.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Guys please spread this, I live here and I love this cake shop so much and would hate to see it get closed for something like this. The cakes there are absolutely phenomenal, and they even have gay and lesbian wedding cake toppers, and is the only cake store that has those in all of Denver, Golden, and Lakewood. Please don’t let this cake shop close.</p>
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<p>Friendly Christian Reminder:<br/></p>
<p>Saying “God Hates” is a violation of most of the New Testament. See also John 3:16-17, for starters. Numerous mentions of “God is love”.</p>
<p>Saying that you are without sin is a bold-faced lie; see Psalm 130 and Romans 3:20.</p>
<p>Passing judgement onto another person is a no-no; see Mathew 7:1-5.</p>
<p>Loving thy neighbor is one of the two most important commandments; Mark 12:31.</p>
<p>And that your ‘neighbor’ isn’t always another Christian; see Luke 10:25-37.</p>
<p><br/></p>
<p>In short, stop using my religion to justify you being an ass-hat, Ass-hat.</p>
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<p style="">Guess we come full circle now. <br/></p>
<p>think <a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mhaiNKeZ_RViwScgQtvf7CQ">@redbloodedamerica</a> gave a scenario like this as a counter example while back.<br/></p>
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<p>I can’t believe this <a href="https://mediaassets.thedenverchannel.com/document/2015/04/23/Jack_Williams_V_Azucar_Bakery_17228465_ver1.0.pdf">actually happened</a>.  This bigot should bake that cake.  How dare she discriminate…</p>
</blockquote>
<p>No, she shouldn’t. She should have the right to refuse service. And so should anyone who doesn’t want to bake a gay wedding cake. <br/></p></blockquote>

<p>Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.</p>

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Ass, Head, and Love: chuckmanx: tatertitans: lgbtlaughs: A bakery is facing legal action because it refused to write anti-gay comments on a cake for a customer The customer bringing the claim against Azucar Bakery in Denver, Colorado, says he was the victim of ‘religious discrimination’ because they wouldn’t adorn cakes with the words ‘God hates gays’, and draw a picture of two men holding hands with a red cross above it. Owner Marjorie Silva called the requests of Bill Jack ‘discriminatory and hateful’ and refused to decorate the cakes, saying: ‘We never refuse service. We did feel that it was not right for us to write hateful words or pictures against human beings.’ She did, however, offer to make Mr Jack the cakes and sell him some icing so her could decorate them himself. Mr Jack was not satisfied with this response, telling a local news station he was being ‘discriminated against by the bakery based on my creed’. He has filed a complaint with the Department of Regulatory Agencies, which have now placed the bakery under investigation, and could refer the complaint to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission if they feel that Mr Jack was being discriminated against. Mr Jack is the head of the Worldview Academy, an organisation that exists to help people ‘think and live in accord with a Biblical worldview’. Since the incident Ms Silva has received praise and support from people throughout the world who have contacted her via email. Guys please spread this, I live here and I love this cake shop so much and would hate to see it get closed for something like this. The cakes there are absolutely phenomenal, and they even have gay and lesbian wedding cake toppers, and is the only cake store that has those in all of Denver, Golden, and Lakewood. Please don’t let this cake shop close. Friendly Christian Reminder: Saying “God Hates” is a violation of most of the New Testament. See also John 3:16-17, for starters. Numerous mentions of “God is love”. Saying that you are without sin is a bold-faced lie; see Psalm 130 and Romans 3:20. Passing judgement onto another person is a no-no; see Mathew 7:1-5. Loving thy neighbor is one of the two most important commandments; Mark 12:31. And that your ‘neighbor’ isn’t always another Christian; see Luke 10:25-37. In short, stop using my religion to justify you being an ass-hat, Ass-hat.
Ass, Head, and Love: chuckmanx:

tatertitans:

lgbtlaughs:

A bakery is facing legal action because it refused to write anti-gay comments on a cake for a customer
The customer bringing the claim against Azucar Bakery in Denver, Colorado, says he was the victim of ‘religious discrimination’ because they wouldn’t adorn cakes with the words ‘God hates gays’, and draw a picture of two men holding hands with a red cross above it.
Owner Marjorie Silva called the requests of Bill Jack ‘discriminatory and hateful’ and refused to decorate the cakes, saying: ‘We never refuse service. We did feel that it was not right for us to write hateful words or pictures against human beings.’
She did, however, offer to make Mr Jack the cakes and sell him some icing so her could decorate them himself.
Mr Jack was not satisfied with this response, telling a local news station he was being ‘discriminated against by the bakery based on my creed’.
He has filed a complaint with the Department of Regulatory Agencies, which have now placed the bakery under investigation, and could refer the complaint to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission if they feel that Mr Jack was being discriminated against.
Mr Jack is the head of the Worldview Academy, an organisation that exists to help people ‘think and live in accord with a Biblical worldview’.
Since the incident Ms Silva has received praise and support from people throughout the world who have contacted her via email.

Guys please spread this, I live here and I love this cake shop so much and would hate to see it get closed for something like this. The cakes there are absolutely phenomenal, and they even have gay and lesbian wedding cake toppers, and is the only cake store that has those in all of Denver, Golden, and Lakewood. Please don’t let this cake shop close.

Friendly Christian Reminder:
Saying “God Hates” is a violation of most of the New Testament. See also John 3:16-17, for starters. Numerous mentions of “God is love”.
Saying that you are without sin is a bold-faced lie; see Psalm 130 and Romans 3:20.
Passing judgement onto another person is a no-no; see Mathew 7:1-5.
Loving thy neighbor is one of the two most important commandments; Mark 12:31.
And that your ‘neighbor’ isn’t always another Christian; see Luke 10:25-37.

In short, stop using my religion to justify you being an ass-hat, Ass-hat.

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Alive, Ash, and Bad: Name the proper method of murdering children, according to the bible. FAMILY STONE THEM TO DEATH Deuteronomy 21:21 DROWN THEM Matthew 18:6 21 | FATHERS SHOULD EAT SONS 8 Ezekiel 5:10 POISON THEM Deuteronomy 32:24 DASH THEM AGAINST STONES KILL THEM WITH DEATH Revelations 2:23 11 Psalms 137:9 SET FIRE TO THEM 10 STARVE THEM TO DEATH Lev 10:3 Lamentations 4:4 <p><a href="http://marumina.tumblr.com/post/101601096550/this-is-intended-to-be-a-sort-of-gotcha-but" class="tumblr_blog">marumina</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>This is intended to be a sort of “gotcha,” but what this really is is gross misinterpretation.</p> <p>Let’s take what each of these verses actually say, shall we?  Then we will look at what they actually mean.</p> <p>Deuteronomy 21:21 as a verse itself can only be understood in the context of the other verses in the passage, so I will provide them here.</p> <p>Deuteronomy 21:18 - If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him,</p> <p>21:19 - his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.</p> <p>21:20 - They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”</p> <p>21:21 - Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.</p> <p>A drunkard?  Now how many little kids do you know are guzzling alcohol?  Certainly not in that culture and time, at least.  So already we can get the sense that they’re most likely referring to adult children.  When we think of children in Western culture, we always assume young children, but technically, even if you’re 30 years old, you’re still your mother and father’s child, even though you are not <em>a</em> child in the eyes of the society in which you were raised.  But family ties were extremely significant to the Jewish people in the era of the Old Testament, specifically ties between parents and their progeny.</p> <p>It’s also important to note that the punishments for sin in the Old Testament were exclusive to the Jews in that time period.  It was a temporary theocracy system, and later, in the Book of Hebrews, Jesus tells His Jewish followers that they cannot follow Him and also make sacrifices and judgments according to Moses’ Law.  Jesus fulfilled the Law when He died on the cross.  That’s not to say that now we cannot send people to jail for murdering someone - simply that we are not bound by Moses’ Law.  The moral laws, such as loving your neighbor, not stealing, not lying, not being jealous of others, are timeless, but the actual legal/justice system in Moses’ Law was temporary.</p> <p>Matthew 18:6 - “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”</p> <p>Children in this case are referred to as Jesus’ followers in the context of this passage.  Jesus is using the example of children as a metaphor.  But even so, it doesn’t say that the <em>children</em> are the ones to get drowned - it’s those who influence them to do bad things.  And notice how he doesn’t say “you must drown them,” - he is saying that it would be <em>better</em> for them to drown than to cause one of God’s children to do bad things, like hatred against your fellow man, etc. etc.  Which implies that the spiritual consequences will be grave, since there are no earthly consequences for influencing a Christian to do bad.  So this passage doesn’t even <em>imply</em> punishing children at all, unless you’re going to do some huge nonsense mental acrobatics.</p> <p>Revelations 2:23 - I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.</p> <p>This is Jesus speaking exclusively about Jezebel’s children, if you read the previous verses.  Jezebel’s children were already adults before Jesus made this statement, in fact two of her sons had succeeded their father’s throne (one after the other, since the first son died), so they are completely responsible for their own deeds, good or bad.  Jezebel was a queen of Israel who called herself a prophet, but she did many evil, selfish things, trying to justify herself by saying she was doing right by God.  She believed a king had absolute power and could do whatever he wished because his word was law, even if he did bad.  She murdered several prophets (1 Kings 18:4) in an attempt to convert the Israelites to polytheism.  She also had a man stoned to death because he refused to sell his vineyard to her husband, the king (1 Kings 21:1-14).  So she wasn’t exactly the best person.</p> <p>Leviticus 10:3 - Moses then said to Aaron, “This is what the L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> spoke of when he said: “ ‘Among those who approach me I will be proved holy; in the sight of all the people I will be honored.’ ” Aaron remained silent.</p> <p>I assume there was a mistake here, because this verse doesn’t refer to burning children whatsoever!  But if you read the previous verses, you find that who actually died were two of the sons of Aaron, the head priest.  They themselves were priests, and to be a priest at that time, you had to be around 30 years old.  So, again, old enough to be made accountable for your actions.</p> <p>Ezekiel 5:10 - Therefore in your midst parents will eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.</p> <p>This is specifically a prophesy given the context of the passage, not a moral command.</p> <p>Ezekiel 5:5-10 - “This is what the Sovereign L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her.</p> <p>&ldquo;Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees.</p> <p>“Therefore this is what the Sovereign L<span class="yhwh" id="yui-gen111">ORD</span> says: You have been more unruly than the nations around you and have not followed my decrees or kept my laws. You have not even conformed to the standards of the nations around you.</p> <p>&quot;Because of all your detestable idols, I will do to you what I have never done before and will never do again.</p> <p>Therefore in your midst parents will eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.”</p> <p>It is clearly a prophesy of what the people of Israel would do when they turned their backs against God, which eventually happened in 2 Kings.  It is not a condoning of cannibalism, because the Bible repeatedly declares murder as an atrocious sin.<span>  Right after the declaration of prophesy, God states that Israel would be punished for doing such things.<br/></span></p> <p><span>Deuteronomy 32:24 - “</span>I will send wasting famine against them, consuming pestilence and deadly plague; I will send against them the fangs of wild beasts, the venom of vipers that glide in the dust.”</p> <p>This entire chapter (Deuteronomy 32) is dedicated to what would happen to Israel if they started doing evil things and turning their backs on God.  “Sons and daughters” tie in with the idea that when you are a follower of God, you are God’s son or daughter.  Just like when you’re 40, and your parents are still alive, you’re still their son or daughter.</p> <p>Psalms 137:9</p> <p>&quot;Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.&rdquo;</p> <p>Hmm!  Now this seems more direct, right?  Except it’s not.  This is from a short chapter of Psalms, so I’ll provide the other verses.</p> <p>Psalms 137:1-9</p> <p>&ldquo;By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion.</p> <p>There on the poplars we hung our harps,</p> <p>for there our captors asked us for songs, our tormentors demanded songs of joy; they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”</p> <p>How can we sing the songs of the L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> while in a foreign land?</p> <p>If I forget you, Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill.</p> <p>May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not consider Jerusalem my highest joy.</p> <p>Remember, L<span class="yhwh" id="yui-gen62">ORD</span>, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. “Tear it down,” they cried, “tear it down to its foundations!”</p> <p>Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us.</p> <p>Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”</p> <p>Since the writer of this Psalm (and the Psalms in general) is widely agreed to have been King David, taken into context with the entire chapter, Psalms 137:9 seems to be one part of David’s lamenting of his loss of Jerusalem.  It’s important to note that the Bible is not entirely made up of moral doctrines - it also tells a story, and gets into the hearts and minds of many different people.</p> <p>Anyone reading line 9, after having read the previous lines and indeed, most of the Psalms, would see that this line is just a ruler regretting the loss of his kingdom.</p> <p>Lamentations 4:4 - Because of thirst the infant’s tongue sticks to the roof of its mouth; the children beg for bread, but no one gives it to them.</p> <p>Now, if you read the rest of the chapter, you will see that this too is a lamentation (hence the title, haha!).  This is not a moral command - this is an account of how the people of Israel are slacking in following up on God’s moral commands, and because of that, they are causing children to starve.  Read the first five verses together now:</p> <p>Lamentations 4:1-5</p> <p>&quot;How the gold has lost its luster, the fine gold become dull! The sacred gems are scattered at every street corner.</p> <p>&quot;How the precious children of Zion [Israel, essentially], once worth their weight in gold, are now considered as pots of clay, the work of a potter’s hands!</p> <p>&quot;Even jackals offer their breasts to nurse their young, but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert.</p> <p>&quot;Because of thirst the infant’s tongue sticks to the roof of its mouth; the children beg for bread, but no one gives it to them.</p> <p>&quot;Those who once ate delicacies are destitute in the streets. Those brought up in royal purple now lie on ash heaps.&rdquo;</p> <p>That line there - “but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert.”  It is because of Israel’s degradation and refusal to consistently follow the moral commands given to them by God, that eventually, this situation came about.  The reason children are being starved is because the Israelites are not feeding them - they’re slacking off, basically.  This line, too, is not a moral command, then - it is the author recording the suffering of Israel because they stopped following their moral code, given to them by God.</p> <p>Now overall, what do all my explanations show you?  It shows you that some people will do anything to claim my faith is evil, even going so far as to completely ignore context - the very basics of literary hermeneutics - and instead cherry-pick verses that at first glance seem problematic, but deeper reading proves quite the opposite.</p></blockquote>
Alive, Ash, and Bad: Name the proper method of murdering
 children, according to the bible.
 FAMILY
 STONE THEM TO DEATH
 Deuteronomy 21:21
 DROWN THEM
 Matthew 18:6
 21 |
 FATHERS SHOULD EAT SONS
 8
 Ezekiel 5:10
 POISON THEM
 Deuteronomy 32:24
 DASH THEM AGAINST STONES
 KILL THEM WITH DEATH
 Revelations 2:23
 11
 Psalms 137:9
 SET FIRE TO THEM 10
 STARVE THEM TO DEATH
 Lev 10:3
 Lamentations 4:4
<p><a href="http://marumina.tumblr.com/post/101601096550/this-is-intended-to-be-a-sort-of-gotcha-but" class="tumblr_blog">marumina</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>This is intended to be a sort of “gotcha,” but what this really is is gross misinterpretation.</p>
<p>Let’s take what each of these verses actually say, shall we?  Then we will look at what they actually mean.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 21:21 as a verse itself can only be understood in the context of the other verses in the passage, so I will provide them here.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 21:18 - If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him,</p>
<p>21:19 - his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.</p>
<p>21:20 - They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”</p>
<p>21:21 - Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.</p>
<p>A drunkard?  Now how many little kids do you know are guzzling alcohol?  Certainly not in that culture and time, at least.  So already we can get the sense that they’re most likely referring to adult children.  When we think of children in Western culture, we always assume young children, but technically, even if you’re 30 years old, you’re still your mother and father’s child, even though you are not <em>a</em> child in the eyes of the society in which you were raised.  But family ties were extremely significant to the Jewish people in the era of the Old Testament, specifically ties between parents and their progeny.</p>
<p>It’s also important to note that the punishments for sin in the Old Testament were exclusive to the Jews in that time period.  It was a temporary theocracy system, and later, in the Book of Hebrews, Jesus tells His Jewish followers that they cannot follow Him and also make sacrifices and judgments according to Moses’ Law.  Jesus fulfilled the Law when He died on the cross.  That’s not to say that now we cannot send people to jail for murdering someone - simply that we are not bound by Moses’ Law.  The moral laws, such as loving your neighbor, not stealing, not lying, not being jealous of others, are timeless, but the actual legal/justice system in Moses’ Law was temporary.</p>
<p>Matthew 18:6 - “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”</p>
<p>Children in this case are referred to as Jesus’ followers in the context of this passage.  Jesus is using the example of children as a metaphor.  But even so, it doesn’t say that the <em>children</em> are the ones to get drowned - it’s those who influence them to do bad things.  And notice how he doesn’t say “you must drown them,” - he is saying that it would be <em>better</em> for them to drown than to cause one of God’s children to do bad things, like hatred against your fellow man, etc. etc.  Which implies that the spiritual consequences will be grave, since there are no earthly consequences for influencing a Christian to do bad.  So this passage doesn’t even <em>imply</em> punishing children at all, unless you’re going to do some huge nonsense mental acrobatics.</p>
<p>Revelations 2:23 - I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.</p>
<p>This is Jesus speaking exclusively about Jezebel’s children, if you read the previous verses.  Jezebel’s children were already adults before Jesus made this statement, in fact two of her sons had succeeded their father’s throne (one after the other, since the first son died), so they are completely responsible for their own deeds, good or bad.  Jezebel was a queen of Israel who called herself a prophet, but she did many evil, selfish things, trying to justify herself by saying she was doing right by God.  She believed a king had absolute power and could do whatever he wished because his word was law, even if he did bad.  She murdered several prophets (1 Kings 18:4) in an attempt to convert the Israelites to polytheism.  She also had a man stoned to death because he refused to sell his vineyard to her husband, the king (1 Kings 21:1-14).  So she wasn’t exactly the best person.</p>
<p>Leviticus 10:3 - Moses then said to Aaron, “This is what the L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> spoke of when he said: “ ‘Among those who approach me I will be proved holy; in the sight of all the people I will be honored.’ ” Aaron remained silent.</p>
<p>I assume there was a mistake here, because this verse doesn’t refer to burning children whatsoever!  But if you read the previous verses, you find that who actually died were two of the sons of Aaron, the head priest.  They themselves were priests, and to be a priest at that time, you had to be around 30 years old.  So, again, old enough to be made accountable for your actions.</p>

<p>Ezekiel 5:10 - Therefore in your midst parents will eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.</p>
<p>This is specifically a prophesy given the context of the passage, not a moral command.</p>
<p>Ezekiel 5:5-10 - “This is what the Sovereign L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her.</p>
<p>&ldquo;Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees.</p>
<p>“Therefore this is what the Sovereign L<span class="yhwh" id="yui-gen111">ORD</span> says: You have been more unruly than the nations around you and have not followed my decrees or kept my laws. You have not even conformed to the standards of the nations around you.</p>
<p>&quot;Because of all your detestable idols, I will do to you what I have never done before and will never do again.</p>
<p>Therefore in your midst parents will eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.”</p>
<p>It is clearly a prophesy of what the people of Israel would do when they turned their backs against God, which eventually happened in 2 Kings.  It is not a condoning of cannibalism, because the Bible repeatedly declares murder as an atrocious sin.<span>  Right after the declaration of prophesy, God states that Israel would be punished for doing such things.<br/></span></p>
<p><span>Deuteronomy 32:24 - “</span>I will send wasting famine against them, consuming pestilence and deadly plague; I will send against them the fangs of wild beasts, the venom of vipers that glide in the dust.”</p>
<p>This entire chapter (Deuteronomy 32) is dedicated to what would happen to Israel if they started doing evil things and turning their backs on God.  “Sons and daughters” tie in with the idea that when you are a follower of God, you are God’s son or daughter.  Just like when you’re 40, and your parents are still alive, you’re still their son or daughter.</p>
<p>Psalms 137:9</p>
<p>&quot;Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Hmm!  Now this seems more direct, right?  Except it’s not.  This is from a short chapter of Psalms, so I’ll provide the other verses.</p>
<p>Psalms 137:1-9</p>
<p>&ldquo;By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion.</p>
<p>There on the poplars we hung our harps,</p>
<p>for there our captors asked us for songs, our tormentors demanded songs of joy; they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”</p>
<p>How can we sing the songs of the L<span class="yhwh">ORD</span> while in a foreign land?</p>
<p>If I forget you, Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill.</p>
<p>May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not consider Jerusalem my highest joy.</p>
<p>Remember, L<span class="yhwh" id="yui-gen62">ORD</span>, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. “Tear it down,” they cried, “tear it down to its foundations!”</p>
<p>Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us.</p>
<p>Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”</p>
<p>Since the writer of this Psalm (and the Psalms in general) is widely agreed to have been King David, taken into context with the entire chapter, Psalms 137:9 seems to be one part of David’s lamenting of his loss of Jerusalem.  It’s important to note that the Bible is not entirely made up of moral doctrines - it also tells a story, and gets into the hearts and minds of many different people.</p>
<p>Anyone reading line 9, after having read the previous lines and indeed, most of the Psalms, would see that this line is just a ruler regretting the loss of his kingdom.</p>
<p>Lamentations 4:4 - Because of thirst the infant’s tongue sticks to the roof of its mouth; the children beg for bread, but no one gives it to them.</p>
<p>Now, if you read the rest of the chapter, you will see that this too is a lamentation (hence the title, haha!).  This is not a moral command - this is an account of how the people of Israel are slacking in following up on God’s moral commands, and because of that, they are causing children to starve.  Read the first five verses together now:</p>
<p>Lamentations 4:1-5</p>
<p>&quot;How the gold has lost its luster, the fine gold become dull! The sacred gems are scattered at every street corner.</p>
<p>&quot;How the precious children of Zion [Israel, essentially], once worth their weight in gold, are now considered as pots of clay, the work of a potter’s hands!</p>
<p>&quot;Even jackals offer their breasts to nurse their young, but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert.</p>
<p>&quot;Because of thirst the infant’s tongue sticks to the roof of its mouth; the children beg for bread, but no one gives it to them.</p>
<p>&quot;Those who once ate delicacies are destitute in the streets. Those brought up in royal purple now lie on ash heaps.&rdquo;</p>
<p>That line there - “but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert.”  It is because of Israel’s degradation and refusal to consistently follow the moral commands given to them by God, that eventually, this situation came about.  The reason children are being starved is because the Israelites are not feeding them - they’re slacking off, basically.  This line, too, is not a moral command, then - it is the author recording the suffering of Israel because they stopped following their moral code, given to them by God.</p>
<p>Now overall, what do all my explanations show you?  It shows you that some people will do anything to claim my faith is evil, even going so far as to completely ignore context - the very basics of literary hermeneutics - and instead cherry-pick verses that at first glance seem problematic, but deeper reading proves quite the opposite.</p></blockquote>

marumina: This is intended to be a sort of “gotcha,” but what this really is is gross misinterpretation. Let’s take what each of these vers...

Animals, Bad, and Blessed: Your core values tell you "thou shalt not kill" but your killing machine says "Shut up God, this is 'Merica!" Pew pew <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://moofles.tumblr.com/post/41734084815/gop-tea-pub-proudgayconservative-well">moofles</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://gop-tea-pub.tumblr.com/post/41733882076/proudgayconservative-well-actually-it-says">gop-tea-pub</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://proudgayconservative.tumblr.com/post/41731987426/well-actually-it-says-thou-shalt-not-murder-the">proudgayconservative</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Well actually it says “thou shalt not murder”, the hebrew word does not translate as kill.</p> <p>There is a distinct difference between “kill” and “murder” even in our modern day legal system.</p> <p>If I kill a man who is attempting to murder or rape or rob me, that is not murder. That is self-defense. Which is exactly why (along with hunting and sports) that most gun owners own weapons.</p> <p>Congratulations for showing your stupidity again!</p> </blockquote> <h2>Exodus 22:2-3</h2> <p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Exodus 22:2-3</strong>  <sup>2</sup> “If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.   <sup>3</sup> “<u>If the sun has risen on him</u>, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">There are two cases here. In the first case, if someone breaks into your home at night, and you kill him, you are not held guilty of murder. You are not deserving of capital punishment. You do not need to flee to a city of refuge to preserve your life. The understanding is that at night, it is dark, and if someone has invaded your house, they do not announce if they are there merely to steal jewelry and tools. In the dark, you have no way of knowing if someone is coming to kidnap, to rape, or to murder. You are thus blameless if the criminal is killed in that situation. The passage does make it clear that if a man is breaking in at night with the intent of theft <em>or worse</em> (rape, murder, kidnapping, etc.), the defendant can righteously defend himself with lethal force to prevent the commission of the crime).  </p> <p class="MsoNormal">In the second case, it says “if the sun has risen on him”, and you kill the intruder, you are guilty of his bloodshed.  The understanding is that in daytime, there is light, and you can discern the intentions of the home invader. The crime in question here is theft (“if the <strong>thief</strong>”). It is not legitimate to kill someone who is merely stealing your property. In creating civil laws, we see here that not all crimes are worthy of death.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">In the daytime, it is assumed that the intention of the intruder can be discerned. If he is a thief, he may not be killed by the defendant. However, if the intruder is there to commit a different crime—assault, murder, kidnapping, rape, etc.—different laws/rules would apply. Though the crime of theft is not worthy of death, kidnapping was worthy of death (Exodus 21:16, Deut. 24:7) as was murder.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Matthew Henry writes: “…if it was in the day-time that the thief was killed, he that killed him must be accountable for it, unless it was in the necessary defense of his own life. … We ought to be tender of the lives even of bad men; the magistrate must afford us redress, and we must not avenge ourselves.” <br/><br/></p> <h1>Possession of weapons and skills with weapons a good and useful thing</h1> <p class="MsoNormal">Having looked at a number of passages that deal with weapons and self-defense, let’s spend a little time discussing Scripture’s view of owning weapons and being skilled in their use. The imagery of weapon use and skill at weapons use is often employed in Scripture, and it is often portrayed as a positive or desirable thing. The Lord’s might is something good, and it is often depicted using martial terms (Zec. 9:14, Psa. 7:13, 18:14, 21:12, 64:7, Hab. 3:11, Deu 32:42, 2 Sam 22:15). The Scriptures are a sword (Eph. 6:17; Heb 4:12). A sword comes out of the mouth of Christ (Rev. 1:16, 2:16, 19:15).</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Possession of weapons is never discouraged in Scripture. In fact, in 1Sam 13:19ff, it is negatively reported that no spears or swords were found in Israel because of the Philistines:</p> <p class="MsoQuote"><strong>1 Samuel 13:19-22 </strong> <sup>9</sup> Now there was no blacksmith to be found throughout all the land of Israel, for the Philistines said, “Lest the Hebrews make swords or spears.”…  <sup>22</sup> So it came about, on the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people who were with Saul and Jonathan. But they were found with Saul and Jonathan his son.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Let’s look at two verses from the Psalms:</p> <p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Psalm 144:1</strong> Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:</p> <p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Psalm 18:34 </strong>He teaches my hands to make war, So that my arms can bend a bow of bronze</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Skill and ability to use weapons here, whether literal and/or metaphorical, is positively portrayed in these verses.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Further, we have accounts of David, not a soldier, not a law enforcement officer, but a youth, employing ranged weapons skillfully (with God’s help) against bears and lions. This is domestic use of lethal weaponry, non-military use, with non-military training. The weapons used by young David are not “kiddie” slingshots. They are powerful enough to kill a bear and lion—in today’s market, we’re talking about a .44 magnum, not a .22, in the hands of someone too young to be in the army.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">We might be tempted to think that was just for dealing with animals that could threaten sheep. But aren’t <em>humans</em> worth even <em>more</em> protection than sheep?</p> <p class="MsoNormal">We understand that according to Scripture, in matters not of worship or church government, whatever is not forbidden is permitted. I’m not making a claim that ownership of weaponry for the purpose of self-defense is <em>required </em>of the believer. It is not required, but it is <em>permitted</em> by Scripture.</p> <h2>Perspective</h2> <p class="MsoNormal">Fourthly and finally, keep the right perspective on this. Though we see sanction and even a qualified directive from Christ to possess personal weapons, we must remember three points. First, in the remainder of the New Testament, we have no further examples of believers taking up the sword. Secondly, the emphasis in the remainder of the New Testament is decidedly <em>not</em> geared toward the issues of physical self-defense or righteous use of lethal force. Rather, we see more emphasis on Godly living, suffering affliction and persecution for Christ, and grasping the precious doctrines of Christ and the Gospel.  Thirdly, possession of weapons and acquiring the skill to use them in self-defense is permitted but not <em>required</em> by Scripture.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Believers should be conscious that personal self-defense is legitimatized by the Scriptures, just as the use of construction tools, cooking tools, transportation tools are legitimized by Scripture. And these matters of self-defense should hold in our minds and in our affections the same position as those other legitimate, but transitory, matters.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The tendency in some circles is to make the topic of self-defense of <em>primary importance</em>. Though heavenly beings do battle and render judgments with the sword, in the perfection pictured in both the garden of Eden and in the Heavenly city, the <em>primary</em> activities are fellowship with God, fellowship with His people, singing in worship, and living in peace.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><em>That</em> is our destination.<br/><br/>And there ya go. The Biblical explanation in short. The Bible also states that we are to obey the laws of man.</p> <h3><a class="bibleref" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13%3A1-5&amp;version=ESV">Romans 13:1-5</a><span class="note"> </span></h3> <p>Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. <br/><br/><br/>You asked for it with your little contrived picture. You got an answer I am sure you will try and construe. Try being the key word.<br/><br/>Check mate. Try again with a new game.</p> </blockquote> <p>oh <em>snap</em></p> </blockquote>
Animals, Bad, and Blessed: Your core values tell
 you "thou shalt not kill"
 but your killing
 machine says
 "Shut up God,
 this is 'Merica!"
 Pew pew
<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://moofles.tumblr.com/post/41734084815/gop-tea-pub-proudgayconservative-well">moofles</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://gop-tea-pub.tumblr.com/post/41733882076/proudgayconservative-well-actually-it-says">gop-tea-pub</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://proudgayconservative.tumblr.com/post/41731987426/well-actually-it-says-thou-shalt-not-murder-the">proudgayconservative</a>:</p>
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<p>Well actually it says “thou shalt not murder”, the hebrew word does not translate as kill.</p>
<p>There is a distinct difference between “kill” and “murder” even in our modern day legal system.</p>
<p>If I kill a man who is attempting to murder or rape or rob me, that is not murder. That is self-defense. Which is exactly why (along with hunting and sports) that most gun owners own weapons.</p>
<p>Congratulations for showing your stupidity again!</p>
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<h2>Exodus 22:2-3</h2>
<p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Exodus 22:2-3</strong>  <sup>2</sup> “If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.   <sup>3</sup> “<u>If the sun has risen on him</u>, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are two cases here. In the first case, if someone breaks into your home at night, and you kill him, you are not held guilty of murder. You are not deserving of capital punishment. You do not need to flee to a city of refuge to preserve your life. The understanding is that at night, it is dark, and if someone has invaded your house, they do not announce if they are there merely to steal jewelry and tools. In the dark, you have no way of knowing if someone is coming to kidnap, to rape, or to murder. You are thus blameless if the criminal is killed in that situation. The passage does make it clear that if a man is breaking in at night with the intent of theft <em>or worse</em> (rape, murder, kidnapping, etc.), the defendant can righteously defend himself with lethal force to prevent the commission of the crime).  </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the second case, it says “if the sun has risen on him”, and you kill the intruder, you are guilty of his bloodshed.  The understanding is that in daytime, there is light, and you can discern the intentions of the home invader. The crime in question here is theft (“if the <strong>thief</strong>”). It is not legitimate to kill someone who is merely stealing your property. In creating civil laws, we see here that not all crimes are worthy of death.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the daytime, it is assumed that the intention of the intruder can be discerned. If he is a thief, he may not be killed by the defendant. However, if the intruder is there to commit a different crime—assault, murder, kidnapping, rape, etc.—different laws/rules would apply. Though the crime of theft is not worthy of death, kidnapping was worthy of death (Exodus 21:16, Deut. 24:7) as was murder.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Matthew Henry writes: “…if it was in the day-time that the thief was killed, he that killed him must be accountable for it, unless it was in the necessary defense of his own life. … We ought to be tender of the lives even of bad men; the magistrate must afford us redress, and we must not avenge ourselves.” <br/><br/></p>
<h1>Possession of weapons and skills with weapons a good and useful thing</h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">Having looked at a number of passages that deal with weapons and self-defense, let’s spend a little time discussing Scripture’s view of owning weapons and being skilled in their use. The imagery of weapon use and skill at weapons use is often employed in Scripture, and it is often portrayed as a positive or desirable thing. The Lord’s might is something good, and it is often depicted using martial terms (Zec. 9:14, Psa. 7:13, 18:14, 21:12, 64:7, Hab. 3:11, Deu 32:42, 2 Sam 22:15). The Scriptures are a sword (Eph. 6:17; Heb 4:12). A sword comes out of the mouth of Christ (Rev. 1:16, 2:16, 19:15).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Possession of weapons is never discouraged in Scripture. In fact, in 1Sam 13:19ff, it is negatively reported that no spears or swords were found in Israel because of the Philistines:</p>
<p class="MsoQuote"><strong>1 Samuel 13:19-22 </strong> <sup>9</sup> Now there was no blacksmith to be found throughout all the land of Israel, for the Philistines said, “Lest the Hebrews make swords or spears.”…  <sup>22</sup> So it came about, on the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people who were with Saul and Jonathan. But they were found with Saul and Jonathan his son.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s look at two verses from the Psalms:</p>
<p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Psalm 144:1</strong> Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:</p>
<p class="MsoQuote"><strong>Psalm 18:34 </strong>He teaches my hands to make war, So that my arms can bend a bow of bronze</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Skill and ability to use weapons here, whether literal and/or metaphorical, is positively portrayed in these verses.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Further, we have accounts of David, not a soldier, not a law enforcement officer, but a youth, employing ranged weapons skillfully (with God’s help) against bears and lions. This is domestic use of lethal weaponry, non-military use, with non-military training. The weapons used by young David are not “kiddie” slingshots. They are powerful enough to kill a bear and lion—in today’s market, we’re talking about a .44 magnum, not a .22, in the hands of someone too young to be in the army.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We might be tempted to think that was just for dealing with animals that could threaten sheep. But aren’t <em>humans</em> worth even <em>more</em> protection than sheep?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We understand that according to Scripture, in matters not of worship or church government, whatever is not forbidden is permitted. I’m not making a claim that ownership of weaponry for the purpose of self-defense is <em>required </em>of the believer. It is not required, but it is <em>permitted</em> by Scripture.</p>
<h2>Perspective</h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fourthly and finally, keep the right perspective on this. Though we see sanction and even a qualified directive from Christ to possess personal weapons, we must remember three points. First, in the remainder of the New Testament, we have no further examples of believers taking up the sword. Secondly, the emphasis in the remainder of the New Testament is decidedly <em>not</em> geared toward the issues of physical self-defense or righteous use of lethal force. Rather, we see more emphasis on Godly living, suffering affliction and persecution for Christ, and grasping the precious doctrines of Christ and the Gospel.  Thirdly, possession of weapons and acquiring the skill to use them in self-defense is permitted but not <em>required</em> by Scripture.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Believers should be conscious that personal self-defense is legitimatized by the Scriptures, just as the use of construction tools, cooking tools, transportation tools are legitimized by Scripture. And these matters of self-defense should hold in our minds and in our affections the same position as those other legitimate, but transitory, matters.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The tendency in some circles is to make the topic of self-defense of <em>primary importance</em>. Though heavenly beings do battle and render judgments with the sword, in the perfection pictured in both the garden of Eden and in the Heavenly city, the <em>primary</em> activities are fellowship with God, fellowship with His people, singing in worship, and living in peace.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>That</em> is our destination.<br/><br/>And there ya go. The Biblical explanation in short. The Bible also states that we are to obey the laws of man.</p>
<h3><a class="bibleref" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13%3A1-5&amp;version=ESV">Romans 13:1-5</a><span class="note"> </span></h3>
<p>Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. <br/><br/><br/>You asked for it with your little contrived picture. You got an answer I am sure you will try and construe. Try being the key word.<br/><br/>Check mate. Try again with a new game.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>oh <em>snap</em></p>
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