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tobi: Sp3ctre7171 points 3 hours ago You are absolutely correct 1) Miro learned to use the mobility of Winston, as well as his primal, to invent modern dive. He learned all of the tips and tricks and extracted extra value out of the hero that few realized was there. In doing so, he created a role that used main tank as an offensive centerpiece and threat to the backline, and all of a sudden flank heroes weren't alone. A poorly protected ana in the back could be beset by multiple members of the enemy team without much warning. However, this required both new gamesense from miro, and innovations in lucio play from Tobi. Specifically, tobi was able to peel for jehong better than many players thought was possible, compensating for the lack of defensive shields. The compounding innovation led to LH being an offensive threat at every position, and it made it possible for them to do the miraculous turnarounds that defined their APEX championship runs Playing against them was exhausting, as is expected from a team where any one member can wipe you out if left unchecked. 2) Gesture's contribution was twofold. Firstly, he extracted more value out of winston's kit on the defensive side, learning how to use primal both to continue an attack, and to peel for his own back line, which leads into his second main development. That being, under Gesture the final decision was made to transfer shotcalling duties from the main support (lucio and later mercy) and onto the main tank, primarily because engagements were no longer dictated by speed boost, but by the dive from the main tank. Together with the rest of GC Busan, Gesture planned, called, and executed crisp dives that were far better timed and aimed than those of old LH. Whereas Miro's dives were a terror because you would be under attack from multiple divers, the style that Gesture led the way on involved being instantly deleted by a full dive, where a healer pair could be hit with burst from multiple heroes in the same instant. This in turn changed the Winston interplay into a mind game, where there was a choice to be made between deleting the enemy's backline and attempting to save your own. Winston players were forced to learn how to make each leap and pincer engage perfect, or they would simply lose the fight Permalink Embed Save Parent Report Give Gold Reply Sp3ctre7160 points 3 hours ago (Continued) 3) what guxue is introducing is a Winston as the focus of a dive, not just the linchpin. While that sounds like the same thing previously, the Winston would be used to coordinate dives and call the timing, but with Guxue, resources are poured into the Winston to make sure that he can have offensive value. Both because Winston can do damage to the whole team at once (and thus build ult insanely fast against teams pocketing a zen, or against GOATS comps), but also because Winston can simultaneously disrupt the escape methods for healers AND bypass most of the ways in which healers are protected, such as matrix and shields Guxue's innovations are most similar to miro's in that they are mostly focused on a single player's style and that one hero's impact in a game. Changing the offensive presence of a hero is impactful and increases the visible skill gap between good and bad teams, but the effects are mostly limited to that one hero. For that reason, I think that the innovations brought forth by Gesture (and many others) are the most important to the development of modern Winston play, in that they represented a fundamental change in the whole shotcalling and tactical philosophy of dive teams, and opened the gates to the more complex and match specific strategies that we saw in the overwatch league owldesk: some really good tank playstyle analysis on reddit (as a side note, this guy is apparently gonna have analysis articles out soon and you better BELIEVE i’m gonna link them bc if they’re anything like this write up they’ll be great)
tobi: Sp3ctre7171 points 3 hours ago
 You are absolutely correct
 1) Miro learned to use the mobility of Winston, as well as his primal, to invent modern dive. He learned all of the tips and tricks
 and extracted extra value out of the hero that few realized was there. In doing so, he created a role that used main tank as an
 offensive centerpiece and threat to the backline, and all of a sudden flank heroes weren't alone. A poorly protected ana in the
 back could be beset by multiple members of the enemy team without much warning. However, this required both new gamesense
 from miro, and innovations in lucio play from Tobi. Specifically, tobi was able to peel for jehong better than many players thought
 was possible, compensating for the lack of defensive shields. The compounding innovation led to LH being an offensive threat at
 every position, and it made it possible for them to do the miraculous turnarounds that defined their APEX championship runs
 Playing against them was exhausting, as is expected from a team where any one member can wipe you out if left unchecked.
 2) Gesture's contribution was twofold. Firstly, he extracted more value out of winston's kit on the defensive side, learning how to
 use primal both to continue an attack, and to peel for his own back line, which leads into his second main development. That
 being, under Gesture the final decision was made to transfer shotcalling duties from the main support (lucio and later mercy) and
 onto the main tank, primarily because engagements were no longer dictated by speed boost, but by the dive from the main tank.
 Together with the rest of GC Busan, Gesture planned, called, and executed crisp dives that were far better timed and aimed than
 those of old LH. Whereas Miro's dives were a terror because you would be under attack from multiple divers, the style that
 Gesture led the way on involved being instantly deleted by a full dive, where a healer pair could be hit with burst from multiple
 heroes in the same instant. This in turn changed the Winston interplay into a mind game, where there was a choice to be made
 between deleting the enemy's backline and attempting to save your own. Winston players were forced to learn how to make each
 leap and pincer engage perfect, or they would simply lose the fight
 Permalink Embed Save Parent Report Give Gold Reply
 Sp3ctre7160 points 3 hours ago
 (Continued)
 3) what guxue is introducing is a Winston as the focus of a dive, not just the linchpin. While that sounds like the same thing
 previously, the Winston would be used to coordinate dives and call the timing, but with Guxue, resources are poured into the
 Winston to make sure that he can have offensive value. Both because Winston can do damage to the whole team at once (and
 thus build ult insanely fast against teams pocketing a zen, or against GOATS comps), but also because Winston can
 simultaneously disrupt the escape methods for healers AND bypass most of the ways in which healers are protected, such as
 matrix and shields
 Guxue's innovations are most similar to miro's in that they are mostly focused on a single player's style and that one hero's impact
 in a game. Changing the offensive presence of a hero is impactful and increases the visible skill gap between good and bad
 teams, but the effects are mostly limited to that one hero. For that reason, I think that the innovations brought forth by Gesture
 (and many others) are the most important to the development of modern Winston play, in that they represented a fundamental
 change in the whole shotcalling and tactical philosophy of dive teams, and opened the gates to the more complex and match
 specific strategies that we saw in the overwatch league
owldesk:

some really good tank playstyle analysis on reddit (as a side note, this guy is apparently gonna have analysis articles out soon and you better BELIEVE i’m gonna link them bc if they’re anything like this write up they’ll be great)

owldesk: some really good tank playstyle analysis on reddit (as a side note, this guy is apparently gonna have analysis articles out soo...

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 HARD ROCK STADIUM
 MAY 10-12, 2019
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 ou
 FRIDAY
 MIGOS
 MAY 10
 CARDI B RAE SREMMURD RICK ROSS YG. JUICE WRLD LIL YACHTY TRIPPIE REDD RICH THE KID
 A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE SMOKEPURPP PNB ROCK CITY GIRLS WAKA FLOCKA FLAME GOLDLINK LIL DURK
 YOUNG M-A+ YBN COR DAE . FREDDIE GIBBS . YUNG BLEU . GASHI·ZOEY DOLLAZ . DANILEIGH-LIL TJAY-KID TRUNKS
 COCA VANGO CITY MORGUE PHRESHER LIL GOTIT TOKYO JETZ MALIIBU MIITCH DANNY TOWERS ROD WAVE JONY J
 col LERAY . MULATTO . BIG BABY SCUMBAG-BRIANNA PERRY . GROWNBOITRAP . CHIEF POUND-SPLASH ZANOTTI
 SATURDAY
 TRAVIS SCOTT
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 LIL WAYNE-21 SAVAGE . KODAK BLACK . YOUNG THUG-LIL BABY . GUNNA . SHECK WES
 J.LD-SOULJA BOY CHIEF KEEFo LIL MOSEY SAWEETIE-BLUEFACE-COMETHAZINE-BONES . WIFISFUNERAL
 YELLA BEEZY . YNW MELLY . YOUNG NUDYs SPACEGHOSTPURPP 이LOVEMAKONNEN . KILLY-KASH DOLL . HIGHER BROTHERS
 ICE BILLION BERG LIGHTSKINKEISHA TOBI LOU YUNGEEN ACE.JAYDAYOUNGAN LIL KEED LIL DUKE UNOTHEACTIVIST
 LEEBRIAN SYLVAN LACUE WARHOL.SS KILLUMINATII YBS SKOLA RIC WILSON POLO G GUAPDAD 4000.MANU CROOKS
 THE KID LAROI YUNG BABY TATE ROB MARKMAN NATE DAE OTOWN MARCO ERIC BIDDINES KIRBLAGOOP
 RACKZGOD BABY G SPACE JAM THE PILOT
 SUNDAY
 KID CUD
 MAY 12
 LIL UZI VERT+ LIL PUMP-PLAYBOI CARTI GUCCI MANE . TYGA-KEVIN GATES . LIL SKIES-DMX
 WIZ KHALIFA&CURRENSY PERFORMING 2009' BEAST COAST (JOEY BADAS$& FLATBUSH ZOMBIES)
 SKI MASK THE SLUMP GOD-DENZEL CURRY . YOUNGBOY NEVER BROKE AGAIN . TEE GRIZZLEY . G HERBO·YUNG BANS
 BLAC YOUNGSTA FLIPP DINERO SHORELINE MAFIA ROBB BANKS SAINT JHN VALEE PARDISON FONTAINE MEMBERS ONLY
 THE UNDERACHIEVERS QUANDO RONDO MELII MATT OX ASIAN DOLL MEGAN THEE STALLION KIRK KNIGHT NYCK CAUTION
 D SAVAGE. YUNG SIMMIE . NESSLY . JACK HARLOW 이NDIGOCHILDRICK . SPLURGE . 10K.CAASH . THOUXANBANFAUNI . GOSH
 FENDI P-TX.-QUEEN KEYo LANCEY FOUX-BRUNO MALI . LIL BERETE-BABY GOTH-BLAATINA-RICHY SAMO-GAS-TUNDa
 PLUS SPECIAL GUESTS
 SOUNDS BY SCHEME & FIVE VENOMS
 Welcome to
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tobi: king-emare:

thatpettyblackgirl:

Buff Baby (prod. by tobi lou, JuiceBangers) 



ADVENTURE TIME REFERENCESSSSS



nah this is DOPE

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tobi: U7310, onnaSENHESSER
 MANCHESTER
 TENNESSEE
 2018
 MUSIC & ARTS FESTIVAL
 EMINEM THE KILLERS MUSE
 FUTURE BASSNECTAR STURGILL SIMPSON BON IVER 3U
 KHALID PARAMORE KASKADE ALT-J DUA LIPA SHERYL CROW
 ANDERSON PAAK & THE FREE NATIONALS SYLVAN ESSO REBELUTION
 THE REVIVALISTS VIRTUAL SELF NILE RODGERS & CHIC RÜFÜS DU SOL
 CHROMEO STS9 ALISON WONDERLAND MOON TAXI CARNAGE BROCKHAMPTON
 OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW PLAYBOI CARTI THE GLITCH MOB RAG'N'BONE MAN
 BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE SUPERJAM GRAND OLE OPRY FIRST AID KIT JUNGLE
 TASH SULTANA T-PAIN MANCHESTER ORCHESTRA BROTHERS OSBORNE GRYFFIN
 WHAT SO NOT RICH BRIAN TROMBONE SHORTY & ORLEANS AVENUE BILLIE EILISH
 DANIEL CAESAR-KALI UCHIS-KAYZO-SLANDER-ARIZONA-ST. PAUL & THE BROKEN BONES
 LANY THUNDERCAT MAVIS STAPLES HIPPIE SABOTAGE BIG WILD SHIBA SAN
 SIR SLY DENZEL CURRY MOSES SUMNEY SNAKEHIPS TYLER CHILDERS MR. CARMACK
 VALENTINO KHAN . AMADOU & MARIAM . MIDLAND . OPIU0 . JAPANESE BREAKFAST
 JESSIE REYEZ K?D R.LUM.R NOURA MINT SEYMALI GOGO PENGUIN LISSIE CHRIS LAKE
 BILLY KENNY B2B MIJA DURAND JONES& THE INDICATIONS SPACE JESUS MANIC FOCUS
 B0OGIE T B2B SQUNTO IKEBE SHAKEDOWN PIGEONS PLAYING PING PONG SPAFFORD
 SAID THE SKY ELOHIM MELVV ALEX LAHEY KNOX FORTUNE LEWIS CAPALDI RON GALLO
 POND LOUDPVCK.CONWAY WESTSIDE GUNN CLOZEE CHASE ATLANTIC LEVEN KALI BAZZI
 EVERYTHING EVERYTHING FRENSHIP DROELOE TASKA BLACK MIKKY EKKO THE SPENCER LEE BAND
 JUSTIN JAY'S FANTASTIC VOYAGE BLANK RANGE BAYONNE BRUNO MAJOR DUCKWRTH
 THE WAR AND TREATY CYN ARLIE DREAMERS SPENCER LUDWIG THE BRUMMIES JALEN N'GONDA
 JAIRA BURNS OKEY DOKEY ZESHAN B THE REGRETTES TOBI LOU SHEY BABA CHASTITY BROWN
 TOPAZ JONES KYLE DION THE TEXAS GENTLEMAN MICHAEL BLUME POST ANIMAL SOUTHERN AVENUE
 LARKIN POE COLIN ELMORE&THE DANVILLE TRAIN THE BLUE STONES MICHIGAN RATTLERS MATT MAESON
 FLETCHER MATT HOLUBOWSKI VICTORY BOYD SARO FLOR OLIVER HAZARD JADE BIRD JOHN SPLITHOFF
 COLIN MACLEOD REPEAT REPEAT LOW CUT CONNIE DAVIE BIYO WALDEN HUNDRED HANDED &MORE
 LINEUPSUBJECT TO CHANGE
 Tickets on sale Jan. 12 at 10am ET at BONNAROO.COM
How are y’all feeling the Bonnaroo2018 lineup, is it 🔥🔥 or 💩💩? @Bonnaroo WSHH

How are y’all feeling the Bonnaroo2018 lineup, is it 🔥🔥 or 💩💩? @Bonnaroo WSHH

tobi: beauty-at-matrix: slaves-of-yesterday: beauty-at-matrix: I am gonna start measuring everything in cats now. Two years, and it still makes me laugh Awww baby Tobi! ♥
tobi: beauty-at-matrix:

slaves-of-yesterday:
beauty-at-matrix:
I am gonna start measuring everything in cats now.
Two years, and it still makes me laugh

Awww baby Tobi! ♥

beauty-at-matrix: slaves-of-yesterday: beauty-at-matrix: I am gonna start measuring everything in cats now. Two years, and it still make...