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Being Alone, College, and Computers: Philadelphia NEWS . RESTAURANTS HEALTH- WE G SITI[+ REAL ESIATE & HEUE路 1HINGS 10 De- 閰塃DDING- BEST 0F PEILLY MAGAZINE Q Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it, you had to say so out loud MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore
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 Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the
 Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry
 needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of
 what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you
 drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you
 slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on
 rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was
 aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it,
 you had to say so out loud
 MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who
 works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also
 have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college.
 Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young
 people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the
 depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But
 for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an
 actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise
 The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name
 derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where
 the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate
 his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an
 emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm
polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore

polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industr...

Being Alone, College, and Computers: Philadelphia NEWS . RESTAURANTS HEALTH- WE G SITI[+ REAL ESIATE & HEUE路 1HINGS 10 De- 閰塃DDING- BEST 0F PEILLY MAGAZINE Q Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it, you had to say so out loud MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore
Being Alone, College, and Computers: Philadelphia NEWS .
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 Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the
 Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry
 needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of
 what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you
 drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you
 slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on
 rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was
 aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it,
 you had to say so out loud
 MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who
 works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also
 have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college.
 Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young
 people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the
 depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But
 for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an
 actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise
 The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name
 derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where
 the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate
 his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an
 emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm
polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore

polyglotplatypus:please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industr...

Being Alone, College, and Computers: Philadelphia NEWS . RESTAURANTS HEALTH- WE G SITI[+ REAL ESIATE & HEUE路 1HINGS 10 De- 閰塃DDING- BEST 0F PEILLY MAGAZINE Q Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it, you had to say so out loud MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm ouyangdan: negamewtwo: polyglotplatypus: please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore PLEASE TURN THE SOUND ON OH MY GOD
Being Alone, College, and Computers: Philadelphia NEWS .
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 Besides, the impetus seemed righteous. In a world torn asunder by the
 Great Depression, the Holocaust, and two World Wars, our citizenry
 needed to come together, be united, rally behind a collective vision of
 what it meant to be an American: You lived in a single-family house. you
 drove a station wagon, you wore bowling shirts and blue jeans, and you
 slathered mayonnaise on everything from BLTs to burgers to pastrami on
 rye. How do you think "Hold the mayo" became a saying? There was
 aluays mayo, and if you were some kind of deviant who didn't want it,
 you had to say so out loud
 MY SON 陌AKE, who's 25, eats mayo. He's a practical young man who
 works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He's a good son. I also
 have a daughter. She was a women's and gender studies major in college.
 Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she's not alone. Ask the young
 people you know their opinion of mayo, and you'll be shocked by the
 depths of their emotion. Oh, there's the occasional outlier, like Jake. But
 for the most part, today's youth would sooner get their news from an
 actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise
 The origins of this contentious condiment are hotly debated. Is its name
 derived from the city of Mahon on the Balearic Island of Menorca, where
 the Duc de Richelieu's chef, unable to find cream for a sauce to celebrate
 his lordship's successful siege during the Seven Years War, substituted an
 emulsion of eggs and ol? Or is it a bastardization of Bayonnaise, fronm
ouyangdan:
negamewtwo:

polyglotplatypus:
please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killing the mayonnaise industry that was written by a babyboomer upset people don鈥檛 want to eat her bland salads anymore
PLEASE TURN THE SOUND ON

OH MY GOD

ouyangdan: negamewtwo: polyglotplatypus: please listen to this poor man losing his shit as he reads an article blaming millenials for killi...

College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥 It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I read it.聽 An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.聽聽 Except he doesn鈥檛. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say 鈥渋t would be OK if liberals did it鈥. He didn鈥檛 say would be 鈥淥K鈥 with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y鈥檃ll need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don鈥檛 get to just throw up your hands and say 鈥渢hat sounds stupid so it鈥檚 not real鈥. It鈥檚 insanely stupid, and it disturbs me that anyone would even consider this idea.聽 Crazy Uncle Joe would be an absolutely horrible President, even more of a puppet than Obama.聽聽 Friend, buddy, pal, chum. I am not even sort of saying that this would be a good idea and I don鈥檛 even think it鈥檚 on the table. Biden has shown no interest in running, much less appointing Obama as VP. He would be an idiot to do that because it almost certainly wouldn鈥檛 make it through the electoral college. This is just a thought exercise, nothing more.
College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
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coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:


libertarirynn:

coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I read it.聽 An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.聽聽


Except he doesn鈥檛. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say 鈥渋t would be OK if liberals did it鈥. He didn鈥檛 say would be 鈥淥K鈥 with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. 
Y鈥檃ll need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don鈥檛 get to just throw up your hands and say 鈥渢hat sounds stupid so it鈥檚 not real鈥.

It鈥檚 insanely stupid, and it disturbs me that anyone would even consider this idea.聽 Crazy Uncle Joe would be an absolutely horrible President, even more of a puppet than Obama.聽聽

Friend, buddy, pal, chum. I am not even sort of saying that this would be a good idea and I don鈥檛 even think it鈥檚 on the table. Biden has shown no interest in running, much less appointing Obama as VP. He would be an idiot to do that because it almost certainly wouldn鈥檛 make it through the electoral college. This is just a thought exercise, nothing more.

coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The...

Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 urben911: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥 It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said 鈥榙on鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations. You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference. I鈥檓 pretty sure from the wording of the amendment it would be perfectly legal. If they ran as biden/Obama that would be legal because Obama isn鈥檛 being elected as president. If something happened to Biden where the vp would have to take over then you could have Obama in the white house legally. At least that鈥檚 what I get from the wording of the constitution. THANK YOU.It really isn鈥檛 that complicated.
Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
urben911:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said 鈥榙on鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations.

You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference.

I鈥檓 pretty sure from the wording of the amendment it would be perfectly legal. If they ran as biden/Obama that would be legal because Obama isn鈥檛 being elected as president. If something happened to Biden where the vp would have to take over then you could have Obama in the white house legally. At least that鈥檚 what I get from the wording of the constitution.

THANK YOU.It really isn鈥檛 that complicated.

urben911: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of ...

Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 hst3000: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥 It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said 鈥榙on鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations. You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference. Being elected is the default way to become president. I don鈥檛 doubt someone would argue it, but it鈥檚 a STUPID ARGUMENT. The rest of the argument in that article is 鈥榳ell there鈥檚 no law saying the parties can鈥檛 run a dog for election鈥 type of crap. 鈥淏eing elected is the default way to become president鈥 Yes but it鈥檚 not the only way. Teddy Roosevelt not initially get elected to the office, he became president when McKinley died. Whether or not it鈥檚 a stupid argument is beside the point. We鈥檙e talking about theoretical legality.
Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
hst3000:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:


libertarirynn:

coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said 鈥榙on鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations.


You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference.

Being elected is the default way to become president. I don鈥檛 doubt someone would argue it, but it鈥檚 a STUPID ARGUMENT. The rest of the argument in that article is 鈥榳ell there鈥檚 no law saying the parties can鈥檛 run a dog for election鈥 type of crap. 

鈥淏eing elected is the default way to become president鈥 Yes but it鈥檚 not the only way. Teddy Roosevelt not initially get elected to the office, he became president when McKinley died. Whether or not it鈥檚 a stupid argument is beside the point. We鈥檙e talking about theoretical legality.

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College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥 It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I read it.聽 An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.聽聽 Except he doesn鈥檛. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say 鈥渋t would be OK if liberals did it鈥. He didn鈥檛 say would be 鈥淥K鈥 with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y鈥檃ll need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don鈥檛 get to just throw up your hands and say 鈥渢hat sounds stupid so it鈥檚 not real鈥.
College, Crazy, and Jeb Bush: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I read it.聽 An alleged Constitutional scholar completely dismisses an entire amendment.聽聽

Except he doesn鈥檛. He explicitly explained the argument that one would use against that amendment. And again he uses a Republican example too (Jeb Bush/George Bush) so he absolutely did not say 鈥渋t would be OK if liberals did it鈥. He didn鈥檛 say would be 鈥淥K鈥 with him at all, he was just laying out the argument. Y鈥檃ll need to learn that theoretical arguments are not endorsements. The law is full of crazy loopholes that people literally spend years arguing back-and-forth as a career. You don鈥檛 get to just throw up your hands and say 鈥渢hat sounds stupid so it鈥檚 not real鈥.

coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likel...

Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥 It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said don鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations. You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference.
Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
hst3000:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that聽鈥淚t鈥檚 okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!鈥

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I have鈥 opinions鈥 on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying 鈥榳ell he鈥檚 only ineligible to be ELECTED鈥 is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you鈥檙e allowed to be in a house because while they said don鈥檛 come in this door鈥 you came in through the WINDOW. You can鈥檛 back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations.

You can call it 鈥渟tupid shenanigans鈥 all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I鈥檓 certainly not in support of this idea, I鈥檓 just saying you can鈥檛 hand wave a legal argument because you鈥檙e pretty sure it meant something that鈥檚 not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said 鈥渘o former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances鈥, but it doesn鈥檛 say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference.

hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questi...

Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 terrapinfox: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 i read that article and it still doesn鈥檛 seem possible given聽鈥淣o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.鈥漚nd at first i thought this鈥檇 be a good way to secure trump his second term, but鈥 judging by the sheer amount of lunatics in usa atm, a kinda technicality shadow president could have a chance, which would be terrifying and dangerous tbh. The article lose things out pretty clearly, and I summarize it in the OP: the exact wording of the 22nd amendment says that a person cannot be ELECTED more than twice to the office of president. It does not prohibit someone becoming president through a line of succession, Having not been directly elected to the office. A former president would not be constitutionally ineligible based on those parameters.It鈥檚 a loophole in the wording but the law is literally build on loopholes. A constitutional lawyer could and would argue this if they tried to make it happen. Now this article also points out they almost certainly wouldn鈥檛 try to make it happen because of the backlash and lack of likelihood that the electoral college would approve such a ticket. But it is theoretically possible.
Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
terrapinfox:

libertarirynn:
hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being 鈥渆lected鈥 to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn鈥檛 theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

i read that article and it still doesn鈥檛 seem possible given聽鈥淣o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.鈥漚nd at first i thought this鈥檇 be a good way to secure trump his second term, but鈥 judging by the sheer amount of lunatics in usa atm, a kinda technicality shadow president could have a chance, which would be terrifying and dangerous tbh.

The article lose things out pretty clearly, and I summarize it in the OP: the exact wording of the 22nd amendment says that a person cannot be ELECTED more than twice to the office of president. It does not prohibit someone becoming president through a line of succession, Having not been directly elected to the office. A former president would not be constitutionally ineligible based on those parameters.It鈥檚 a loophole in the wording but the law is literally build on loopholes. A constitutional lawyer could and would argue this if they tried to make it happen. Now this article also points out they almost certainly wouldn鈥檛 try to make it happen because of the backlash and lack of likelihood that the electoral college would approve such a ticket. But it is theoretically possible.

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